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mistakebytehlak


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
Think of it this way... Good chance Kelly would have blown up this roster that has been built. Possibly brought in a bunch of weak running QBs???

Now hopefully we get a good coach that will continue to build the team instead of nuking it.

A coach with nfl experience...


pure 100% speculation

Also, NFL HC experience is overrated, which is im sure where you're goign considering your hardons for lovie smith and every other ex NFL retread

mccarthy 1st time NFL HC
payton 1st time NFL HC
harbaugh 1st time NFL HC (both of em)
tomlin 1st time NFL HC
mike smith 1st time NFL HC
gary kubiak 1st time NFL HC


Considering your "hardon" for shurmur I will take my chances.


Rather go down swinging giving a new guy a shot trying to find the next mike mccarthy instead of failing with denny green or jim haslett


No guy has won a SB with two different teams right? I can see wanting that...


But personally, I want a team that can over .500 a couple years and maybe make the playoffs once in awhile... Maybe not fire the HC in 2 years again... Then maybe I'll think about winning a SB. Crying or Very sad


why shoot for mediocrity?
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I want zimmer but undecided on jay. Zimmer has fire and i like what he can do with limited talent.
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Kelly would have been a gamble no matter what. All the more so since he, his agent or both of them are amateur nut cases.


Dunn is no amateur. Here's his client list:

http://www.athletesfirst.net/clients/athletes/

http://www.athletesfirst.net/clients/coaches-and-personnel/
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
Here's my contribution to the quest to 100:

I don't care whether it was Kelly, his agent or both of them orchestrating the events that transpired. All I know is that I would not want to be locked into a multi-year contract having to deal with one, the other or both of them.

Kelly would have been a gamble no matter what. All the more so since he, his agent or both of them are amateur nut cases.

And I trust that whoever we get will be a significant upgrade over Shurmur.


erm

http://www.athletesfirst.net/clients/athletes/
http://www.athletesfirst.net/clients/coaches-and-personnel/

Jim Harbaugh
Greg Roman
Trent Baalke

OH NOS ILLUMIDUNN IN SF

you just really have no idea what you're talking about

ps. dunn and banner are friends and banner still couldnt close a deal



He is staying at Oregon... He listened... That's all he said...

I don't think any nfl courts him net year though...
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Rosters win football games, coaches help to develop rosters, rosters are NOT really developed from scratch after 2 or 3 years...

Everyone except Heckert damaged the roster...also, there was little chance to develop it with constant change


"Miracle coach" doesn't do much better than Shurmur..."miracle QB" doesn't do much better than Weeden given the roster we had.

The roster situation we had was due to poor and impatient decisions in the past.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
Think of it this way... Good chance Kelly would have blown up this roster that has been built. Possibly brought in a bunch of weak running QBs???

Now hopefully we get a good coach that will continue to build the team instead of nuking it.

A coach with nfl experience...


pure 100% speculation

Also, NFL HC experience is overrated, which is im sure where you're goign considering your hardons for lovie smith and every other ex NFL retread

mccarthy 1st time NFL HC
payton 1st time NFL HC
harbaugh 1st time NFL HC (both of em)
tomlin 1st time NFL HC
mike smith 1st time NFL HC
gary kubiak 1st time NFL HC


Considering your "hardon" for shurmur I will take my chances.


Rather go down swinging giving a new guy a shot trying to find the next mike mccarthy instead of failing with denny green or jim haslett


No guy has won a SB with two different teams right? I can see wanting that...


But personally, I want a team that can over .500 a couple years and maybe make the playoffs once in awhile... Maybe not fire the HC in 2 years again... Then maybe I'll think about winning a SB. Crying or Very sad


why shoot for mediocrity?


Not mediocrity.... Rather Reality.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
Think of it this way... Good chance Kelly would have blown up this roster that has been built. Possibly brought in a bunch of weak running QBs???

Now hopefully we get a good coach that will continue to build the team instead of nuking it.

A coach with nfl experience...


pure 100% speculation

Also, NFL HC experience is overrated, which is im sure where you're goign considering your hardons for lovie smith and every other ex NFL retread

mccarthy 1st time NFL HC
payton 1st time NFL HC
harbaugh 1st time NFL HC (both of em)
tomlin 1st time NFL HC
mike smith 1st time NFL HC
gary kubiak 1st time NFL HC


Considering your "hardon" for shurmur I will take my chances.


Rather go down swinging giving a new guy a shot trying to find the next mike mccarthy instead of failing with denny green or jim haslett


No guy has won a SB with two different teams right? I can see wanting that...


But personally, I want a team that can over .500 a couple years and maybe make the playoffs once in awhile... Maybe not fire the HC in 2 years again... Then maybe I'll think about winning a SB. Crying or Very sad


why shoot for mediocrity?


Not mediocrity.... Rather Reality.


no the reality is that you just described wanting a coach that can take us to mediocrity
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entropy wrote:
Rosters win football games, coaches help to develop rosters, rosters are NOT really developed from scratch after 2 or 3 years...

Everyone except Heckert damaged the roster...also, there was little chance to develop it with constant change


"Miracle coach" doesn't do much better than Shurmur..."miracle QB" doesn't do much better than Weeden given the roster we had.

The roster situation we had was due to poor and impatient decisions in the past.


2012? Disagree. A more aggressive coach and who makes less time managements mistakes wins a couple more games. A better QB could have pushed this team into playoffs - see P Manning impact on the broncos offense.
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I wanted Chip. Now I'm sad.

Why do the browns lose out on everything they want?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
Entropy wrote:
Rosters win football games, coaches help to develop rosters, rosters are NOT really developed from scratch after 2 or 3 years...

Everyone except Heckert damaged the roster...also, there was little chance to develop it with constant change


"Miracle coach" doesn't do much better than Shurmur..."miracle QB" doesn't do much better than Weeden given the roster we had.

The roster situation we had was due to poor and impatient decisions in the past.


2012? Disagree. A more aggressive coach and who makes less time managements mistakes wins a couple more games. A better QB could have pushed this team into playoffs - see P Manning impact on the broncos offense.


dude went for it on 4th and 3 from his own 35 and called a double reverse in teh rain that would have gone for a TD had Benji not fumbled

lets not act like the dude never was aggressive
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
Entropy wrote:
Rosters win football games, coaches help to develop rosters, rosters are NOT really developed from scratch after 2 or 3 years...

Everyone except Heckert damaged the roster...also, there was little chance to develop it with constant change


"Miracle coach" doesn't do much better than Shurmur..."miracle QB" doesn't do much better than Weeden given the roster we had.

The roster situation we had was due to poor and impatient decisions in the past.


2012? Disagree. A more aggressive coach and who makes less time managements mistakes wins a couple more games. A better QB could have pushed this team into playoffs - see P Manning impact on the broncos offense.


Disagree, A more agressive coach asks inexperienced players to do things they don't know how to do, resulting in more mistakes.

-see P Manning's team's rookie starts
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bulldog wrote:
I wanted Chip. Now I'm sad.

Why do the browns lose out on everything they want?


Erm, Lerners got their first choices usually

their first choices just seemed to be wrong most of the time
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
Here's my contribution to the quest to 100:

I don't care whether it was Kelly, his agent or both of them orchestrating the events that transpired. All I know is that I would not want to be locked into a multi-year contract having to deal with one, the other or both of them.

Kelly would have been a gamble no matter what. All the more so since he, his agent or both of them are amateur nut cases.

And I trust that whoever we get will be a significant upgrade over Shurmur.


erm

http://www.athletesfirst.net/clients/athletes/
http://www.athletesfirst.net/clients/coaches-and-personnel/

Jim Harbaugh
Greg Roman
Trent Baalke

OH NOS ILLUMIDUNN IN SF

you just really have no idea what you're talking about

ps. dunn and banner are friends and banner still couldnt close a deal


And your links prove what?

As to dunn, with friends like him, banner doesn't need enemies.

Also ignores the possibility that it's Kelly who is the nutcase.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
Think of it this way... Good chance Kelly would have blown up this roster that has been built. Possibly brought in a bunch of weak running QBs???

Now hopefully we get a good coach that will continue to build the team instead of nuking it.

A coach with nfl experience...


pure 100% speculation

Also, NFL HC experience is overrated, which is im sure where you're goign considering your hardons for lovie smith and every other ex NFL retread

mccarthy 1st time NFL HC
payton 1st time NFL HC
harbaugh 1st time NFL HC (both of em)
tomlin 1st time NFL HC
mike smith 1st time NFL HC
gary kubiak 1st time NFL HC


Considering your "hardon" for shurmur I will take my chances.


Rather go down swinging giving a new guy a shot trying to find the next mike mccarthy instead of failing with denny green or jim haslett


No guy has won a SB with two different teams right? I can see wanting that...


But personally, I want a team that can over .500 a couple years and maybe make the playoffs once in awhile... Maybe not fire the HC in 2 years again... Then maybe I'll think about winning a SB. Crying or Very sad


why shoot for mediocrity?


Not mediocrity.... Rather Reality.


no the reality is that you just described wanting a coach that can take us to mediocrity


Considering the team is one of the worst in the last 20 years...

"Mediocre" if that is what you want to call it, sounds great to start with.
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that dunn's not an amateur and you're talking out of your behind
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