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S&B Bleeder
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| Rolni wrote: | Hey Oak!
Check this out:
http://www.spotrac.com/cap-tracker/nfl/2013/
Either we made a big mistake somewhere or they did...
They report 19,5M cap space without the 2012 roll over...
Maybe they are not counting for example Seymour as a dead money factor... |
After going over the list of cap space I want to know how the cheapskates get away with it? Bengals, Browns, Buccaneers and Colts. Well, I've heard the Bengals are real cheapskates. Wasn't Palmer there? |
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oakdb36
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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I figured, i might as well post the numbers i have compiled from different sources:
QB
Carson Palmer - 16 891 667
Terrelle Pryor - 701 000
RB
Darren McFadden - 8 018 417
Taiwan Jones - 656 250
FB
Marcel Reece - 1 423 000
Jamize Olawale - 480 000
Jon Hoese - unknown
WR
Darrius Heyward-Bey - 10 601 000
Denarius Moore - 602 625
Jacoby Ford - 703 871
Juron Criner - 516 140
Rod Streater - 480 000
Travionte Session - 405 000
Isaiah Williams - unknown
TE
David Ausberry - 566 475
Richard Gordon - 581 213
Mickey Shuler - 480 000
OT
Jared Veldheer - 798 750
Willie Smith - 555 000
Joe Slowey - 405 000
OG
Mike Brisiel - 5 030 000
Tony Bergstrom - 606 504
Lucas Nix - 480 000
Jason Foster - 405 000
OC
Stefen Wisniewski - 1 127 837
DE
Lamarr Houston - 1 078 750
Dave Tollefson - 925 000
Jack Crawford - 525 621
Brandon Bair - 480 000
DT
Tommy Kelly - 11 099 267
Christo Bilukidi - 505 966
Johnny Jones - unknown
OLB
Miles Burris - 555 146
Keenan Clayton - 575 000
Mario Kurn - 480 000
ILB
Rolando McClain - 6 675 000
Travis Goethel - 600 000
Jerrell Harris - 405 000
CB
Chimdi Chekwa - 555 000
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah - 555 000
FS
Michael Huff - 11 288 750
SS
Tyvon Branch - 10 900 000
Cory Nelms - 405 000
K
Sebastian Janikowski - 4 925 000
P
Marquette King - 480 000
LS
Jon Condo - 1 308 333
Dead Money
Kevin Boss - 1 500 000
Joe Barksdale - 269 900
Aaron Curry - 1 508 000
Demarcus Van Dyke - 295 688
Chimdi Chekwa - 226 600
Richard Seymour - 5 260 000
Total: 115 896 770
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La_Vader
Joined: 04 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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sweet we are in ok shape... especially once we void
McClain and Seymours deal...
Cut
Kelly
Restructure
Palmer, Huff, DHB, Brisel
we should have more more then 30 million to play with:
Holes at these starting spots:
TE, RT, G AND G, NT, DE, MLB, CB and CB
we need 9 new starts
Hopefully we bring back:
Wheeler, Phillip Adams, Hansen, Bryant
maybe Myers
hopefully we can add 3-4 young starters in FA and 3 starters via draft |
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early43
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| La_Vader wrote: | sweet we are in ok shape... especially once we void
McClain and Seymours deal...
Cut
Kelly
Restructure
Palmer, Huff, DHB, Brisel
we should have more more then 30 million to play with:
Holes at these starting spots:
TE, RT, G AND G, NT, DE, MLB, CB and CB
we need 9 new starts
Hopefully we bring back:
Wheeler, Phillip Adams, Hansen, Bryant
maybe Myers
hopefully we can add 3-4 young starters in FA and 3 starters via draft |
Since when is McClain's contract being voided? Last I heard its a cut with us taking a cap hit. |
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bigjohn
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| La_Vader wrote: | and Brisel was suppose to be an answer to our interior line for that money   |
the running style for the ZB is much different then before make hole run through fast as possible. Running a ZB requires patience you have wait for your hole open up and then speedup through it or sometimes you have holes but you bob and weev to the hole. |
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La_Vader
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| zone blocking is stpid |
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big_palooka
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| La_Vader wrote: | | zone blocking is stpid |
Marshawn lynch sure would disagree
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dante9876
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| big_palooka wrote: | | La_Vader wrote: | | zone blocking is stpid |
Marshawn lynch sure would disagree |
Lynch dont play here. |
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early43
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| dante9876 wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | La_Vader wrote: | | zone blocking is stpid |
Marshawn lynch sure would disagree |
Lynch dont play here. |
Alfred Morris concurs with BP. |
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BigMike1b
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| early43 wrote: | | dante9876 wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | La_Vader wrote: | | zone blocking is stpid |
Marshawn lynch sure would disagree |
Lynch dont play here. |
Alfred Morris concurs with BP. |
And Arian Foster
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BlackPrestige92
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Zone only sucks if you have bad coaching and players who don't fit it. Oh yeah, and if your RB sucks in it and only plays about 9 games a year while getting paid like he's been ballin outrageous.
I remember Chris Colinsworth speaking on Lynch and how Seattle's staff said Lynch's feet are as fast and nimble as his eyes.
I think our Oline can do well in the zone honestly, but our RB's? BLEH!
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holyghost
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| It's crazy that in 6 players who do next to nothing in making this team any better - Tyvon, Huff, McClain, Kelly, Brisiel, Bey, - we have about half of our cap paid out to them. |
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macklemore
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| holyghost wrote: | | It's crazy that in 6 players who do next to nothing in making this team any better - Tyvon, Huff, McClain, Kelly, Brisiel, Bey, - we have about half of our cap paid out to them. |
If I'm McKenzie I'm giving Brisiel and Branch another chance. Releasing Kelly, McClain and Bey. Try to get Palmer, McFadden and Huff to restructure. Re-sign Veldheer and Houston before their value raises, then go after the rest of the FA's we have and try to find some help on defensive line in FA.
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BlackPrestige92
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| macklemore wrote: | | holyghost wrote: | | It's crazy that in 6 players who do next to nothing in making this team any better - Tyvon, Huff, McClain, Kelly, Brisiel, Bey, - we have about half of our cap paid out to them. |
If I'm McKenzie I'm giving Brisiel and Branch another chance. Releasing Kelly, McClain and Bey. Try to get Palmer, McFadden and Huff to restructure. Re-sign Veldheer and Houston before their value raises, then go after the rest of the FA's we have and try to find some help on defensive line in FA. |
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| BlackPrestige92 wrote: | | macklemore wrote: | | holyghost wrote: | | It's crazy that in 6 players who do next to nothing in making this team any better - Tyvon, Huff, McClain, Kelly, Brisiel, Bey, - we have about half of our cap paid out to them. |
If I'm McKenzie I'm giving Brisiel and Branch another chance. Releasing Kelly, McClain and Bey. Try to get Palmer, McFadden and Huff to restructure. Re-sign Veldheer and Houston before their value raises, then go after the rest of the FA's we have and try to find some help on defensive line in FA. |
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I might keep McClain around if we go to a 3-4 defense though, but I don't know what his attitude is actually like at the facility. I just don't like the idea of giving up on a 40 million dollar investment without first putting him in a position to succeed, most of us knew McClain was too big and slow to play MLB in a 4-3. If I knew what actually went down with him at practice I would probably have a different opinion though.
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