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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^Byrd won't hit FA.


I didn't think Donte Whitner would either. They most likely have to pick between franchising Levitre or Byrd.


Do you let a good Guard hit FA or an elite Safety?
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I thought Dashon Golston was going to FA...

Is Golston and Whitner both possibly hitting FA?


I meant I didn't think Buffalo would let Whitner leave for FA when they did, so they may let Byrd go as well. Unless Mario Williams re-negotiates.
Golston will probably hit FA, but he'll be 29 at the start of next season.


Goldson will most likely hit FA, because 49'ers think CJ Spillman is ready. Whitner was never anything great in Buffalo.

Byrd is an elite Safety, no way he's not resigning or franchised.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote:
^Byrd won't hit FA.


I didn't think Donte Whitner would either. They most likely have to pick between franchising Levitre or Byrd.


Do you let a good Guard hit FA or an elite Safety?


Protect my QB and open holes for my RB, so I'd pick Levitre if I could only have 1. I don't think Byrd is elite. I don't think any safety in the league is elite any more. Just a few really good ones. But that Buffalo OL is trash and Levitre is their best one.
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Pugh's got short arms for a tackle, but I think could still play on the right side, he's extremely fluid with his movements and would rarely get beat around the edge.

Kyle Long really showed just how raw he is - he looks like great specimen, but I wouldn't want him as the first guy off the bench - needs to be coached up, looks like he's a least a year away.

Very impressed with Short in the line drills - very quick first step, absolutely froze Winters with a hesitation. Okafar looked good, Williams looked very quick for his size, but looks raw as well. Not sure how well he can anchor, might be more of a 3-4 end even at his size.

Barner looks electric with the ball in his hands - could be a Darren Sproles type talent at the next level.
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RainbowCarebear wrote:
Jeezla wrote:
EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote:
^Byrd won't hit FA.


I didn't think Donte Whitner would either. They most likely have to pick between franchising Levitre or Byrd.


Do you let a good Guard hit FA or an elite Safety?


Protect my QB and open holes for my RB, so I'd pick Levitre if I could only have 1.


Really?
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As a matter of fact, if that were the case, nobody would want to work for him.


Laughing Why do you think Heckert wanted to leave town? Anyone else outside of the "GM" UNDER Andy is just happy to have an NFL position, which are very few in number. So you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base saying that no one would want to work for an NFL franchise because Reid has the absolute final say. Plenty of people have worked under the condition of Reid having final say.
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Jeezla wrote:
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^Byrd won't hit FA.


I didn't think Donte Whitner would either. They most likely have to pick between franchising Levitre or Byrd.


Do you let a good Guard hit FA or an elite Safety?


Would love Levitre - see my last mock - think he's a great player and would be an excellent addition to this team, if they decide they don't want to use that #4 pick on Joeckel. Great way to upgrade the OL and is still very young at 26.
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Pugh's got short arms for a tackle, but I think could still play on the right side, he's extremely fluid with his movements and would rarely get beat around the edge.

Kyle Long really showed just how raw he is - he looks like great specimen, but I wouldn't want him as the first guy off the bench - needs to be coached up, looks like he's a least a year away.

Very impressed with Short in the line drills - very quick first step, absolutely froze Winters with a hesitation. Okafar looked good, Williams looked very quick for his size, but looks raw as well. Not sure how well he can anchor, might be more of a 3-4 end even at his size.

Barner looks electric with the ball in his hands - could be a Darren Sproles type talent at the next level.


RT's tend to go against the power rusher as opposed to the speed rusher. I don't think Pugh is strong enough to hold up at RT. He looks like a good LG.
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Jeezla wrote:
RainbowCarebear wrote:
Jeezla wrote:
EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote:
^Byrd won't hit FA.


I didn't think Donte Whitner would either. They most likely have to pick between franchising Levitre or Byrd.


Do you let a good Guard hit FA or an elite Safety?


Protect my QB and open holes for my RB, so I'd pick Levitre if I could only have 1.


Really?


Absolutely. I'm a trenches kind of man. Win in the trenches, then fill out your team.
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Levitre is good. Byrd have an argument to be the best Safety in the league. And while I agree with building in the trenches, I think you make exceptions with a position like Safety, because finding good/greats ones are rare.
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Pugh's got short arms for a tackle, but I think could still play on the right side, he's extremely fluid with his movements and would rarely get beat around the edge.

Kyle Long really showed just how raw he is - he looks like great specimen, but I wouldn't want him as the first guy off the bench - needs to be coached up, looks like he's a least a year away.

Very impressed with Short in the line drills - very quick first step, absolutely froze Winters with a hesitation. Okafar looked good, Williams looked very quick for his size, but looks raw as well. Not sure how well he can anchor, might be more of a 3-4 end even at his size.

Barner looks electric with the ball in his hands - could be a Darren Sproles type talent at the next level.


RT's tend to go against the power rusher as opposed to the speed rusher. I don't think Pugh is strong enough to hold up at RT. He looks like a good LG.


I know the arms are extremely important, but I still think he could stick at tackle - his feet are so good, he's very quick out of his stance - I know I'll be in the minority on that point.
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He can overcome the 31 inch arms, but it'll be hard. The good thing about him is that if he fails at LT you can put him at LG.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Levitre is good. Byrd have an argument to be the best Safety in the league. And while I agree with building in the trenches, I think you make exceptions with a position like Safety, because finding good/greats ones are rare.


I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying I personally would retain the OG over the safety.
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Levitre is good. Byrd have an argument to be the best Safety in the league. And while I agree with building in the trenches, I think you make exceptions with a position like Safety, because finding good/greats ones are rare.


You do know if your DL is amazing you can play with a horrible secondary. Because the quicker you get to the QB the more he'll make a mistake and throw it to a horrible CB/S.

Same for OL. If your OL is amazing it'll open up run lanes and therefor make the Safeties play closer to the line and when you have a speedster like Desean he'll have a one on one matchup with a Safety at least 5 yards back.

You win games in the trenches.

Trenches > Secondary.
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RainbowCarebear wrote:
Jeezla wrote:
EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote:
^Byrd won't hit FA.


I didn't think Donte Whitner would either. They most likely have to pick between franchising Levitre or Byrd.


Do you let a good Guard hit FA or an elite Safety?


Protect my QB and open holes for my RB, so I'd pick Levitre if I could only have 1. I don't think Byrd is elite. I don't think any safety in the league is elite any more. Just a few really good ones. But that Buffalo OL is trash and Levitre is their best one.


So your willing to pay top 5 OT money (The franchise tag for all OL is the same IIRC) over paying top 5 money for a top 3 safety? If so then your logic is flawed.

Levitre is a good player, Byrd is a great player.
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