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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should do a TE and WR listing as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You should do a TE and WR listing as well.


I will, its just really time consuming. I wanted to post what I had for the time being.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Those numbers sure don't reflect a play who is horrible in coverage like a lot of this board was making him out to be when I suggested him as an option. I would also like to know how many of those 4 penalties were helmet to helmet flags?

Without Front 4 and another corner I think LaRon Landry could be elite here in Cleveland for a few years.


Just some snipits for ya.

In terms of receptions allowed per snaps in coverage, Landry ranks 45th among all safeties with 1 Rec allowed every 16.2 snaps.

Just for some fun, T.J. Ward is FIRST in this category with one rec allowed every 45 snaps!. (Jairus Byrd ranks 6th)

When it comes to tackling efficiency, a ratio of missed tackles to tackles made, Landry ranks 20th among safeties with a tackle missed every 9.1 tackles made

T.J. Ward is second with a ratio of 17.5
- Byrd is first with a 19.8 ratio.

And that avg rec of 14.9 YPC ranks 66th among all safeties for Landry. (Ward is 20th, Byrd is 10th)

Did I mention that T.J. Ward was having a fantastic year? Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has one of the better completion % against numbers of those you posted, yet he is still giving up a reception every 16.2 snaps? Something doesn't add up or teams are throwing at LaRon Landry at a ridiculously high rate.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
Those numbers sure don't reflect a play who is horrible in coverage like a lot of this board was making him out to be when I suggested him as an option. I would also like to know how many of those 4 penalties were helmet to helmet flags?

Without Front 4 and another corner I think LaRon Landry could be elite here in Cleveland for a few years.


Just some snipits for ya.

In terms of receptions allowed per snaps in coverage, Landry ranks 45th among all safeties with 1 Rec allowed every 16.2 snaps.

Just for some fun, T.J. Ward is FIRST in this category with one rec allowed every 45 snaps!. (Jairus Byrd ranks 6th)

When it comes to tackling efficiency, a ratio of missed tackles to tackles made, Landry ranks 20th among safeties with a tackle missed every 9.1 tackles made

T.J. Ward is second with a ratio of 17.5
- Byrd is first with a 19.8 ratio.

And that avg rec of 14.9 YPC ranks 66th among all safeties for Landry. (Ward is 20th, Byrd is 10th)

Did I mention that T.J. Ward was having a fantastic year? Wink
Wow i really like Ward but i had no idea he played that great this season. Where did you find these stats?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
Those numbers sure don't reflect a play who is horrible in coverage like a lot of this board was making him out to be when I suggested him as an option. I would also like to know how many of those 4 penalties were helmet to helmet flags?

Without Front 4 and another corner I think LaRon Landry could be elite here in Cleveland for a few years.


Just some snipits for ya.

In terms of receptions allowed per snaps in coverage, Landry ranks 45th among all safeties with 1 Rec allowed every 16.2 snaps.

Just for some fun, T.J. Ward is FIRST in this category with one rec allowed every 45 snaps!. (Jairus Byrd ranks 6th)

When it comes to tackling efficiency, a ratio of missed tackles to tackles made, Landry ranks 20th among safeties with a tackle missed every 9.1 tackles made

T.J. Ward is second with a ratio of 17.5
- Byrd is first with a 19.8 ratio.

And that avg rec of 14.9 YPC ranks 66th among all safeties for Landry. (Ward is 20th, Byrd is 10th)

Did I mention that T.J. Ward was having a fantastic year? Wink


Been saying this all year
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He has one of the better completion % against numbers of those you posted, yet he is still giving up a reception every 16.2 snaps? Something doesn't add up or teams are throwing at LaRon Landry at a ridiculously high rate.


Landy is the 8th most targeted safety.

And I should say that those stats I listed are among safeties with 50% playing time, not every single one. Except the one I just listed, thats among all with at least 25% playing time.

And that comp % he allows, 58.8%, is 30th among safeties. Don't compare the Safeties to the CB's. Its a different ball park with them.

Kenny Phillips leads the league in with his comp % of 28.6%.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bulldog wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
Those numbers sure don't reflect a play who is horrible in coverage like a lot of this board was making him out to be when I suggested him as an option. I would also like to know how many of those 4 penalties were helmet to helmet flags?

Without Front 4 and another corner I think LaRon Landry could be elite here in Cleveland for a few years.


Just some snipits for ya.

In terms of receptions allowed per snaps in coverage, Landry ranks 45th among all safeties with 1 Rec allowed every 16.2 snaps.

Just for some fun, T.J. Ward is FIRST in this category with one rec allowed every 45 snaps!. (Jairus Byrd ranks 6th)

When it comes to tackling efficiency, a ratio of missed tackles to tackles made, Landry ranks 20th among safeties with a tackle missed every 9.1 tackles made

T.J. Ward is second with a ratio of 17.5
- Byrd is first with a 19.8 ratio.

And that avg rec of 14.9 YPC ranks 66th among all safeties for Landry. (Ward is 20th, Byrd is 10th)

Did I mention that T.J. Ward was having a fantastic year? Wink


Been saying this all year


He's also 4th in run stop %.

The only thing that T.J. doesn't have is INT's.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
He has one of the better completion % against numbers of those you posted, yet he is still giving up a reception every 16.2 snaps? Something doesn't add up or teams are throwing at LaRon Landry at a ridiculously high rate.


Landy is the 8th most targeted safety.

And I should say that those stats I listed are among safeties with 50% playing time, not every single one. Except the one I just listed, thats among all with at least 25% playing time.

And that comp % he allows, 58.8%, is 30th among safeties. Don't compare the Safeties to the CB's. Its a different ball park with them.

Kenny Phillips leads the league in with his comp % of 28.6%.


Where does DaShon Goldson rank in all this?

Where do you get these numbers? Are you a subscribed member somewhere?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
Those numbers sure don't reflect a play who is horrible in coverage like a lot of this board was making him out to be when I suggested him as an option. I would also like to know how many of those 4 penalties were helmet to helmet flags?

Without Front 4 and another corner I think LaRon Landry could be elite here in Cleveland for a few years.


Just some snipits for ya.

In terms of receptions allowed per snaps in coverage, Landry ranks 45th among all safeties with 1 Rec allowed every 16.2 snaps.

Just for some fun, T.J. Ward is FIRST in this category with one rec allowed every 45 snaps!. (Jairus Byrd ranks 6th)

Goldson- 13th with 32.1 snaps/rec
Phillips- 1st with a ratio of 85.5 (again, didn't play enough snaps)


When it comes to tackling efficiency, a ratio of missed tackles to tackles made, Landry ranks 20th among safeties with a tackle missed every 9.1 tackles made

T.J. Ward is second with a ratio of 17.5
- Byrd is first with a 19.8 ratio.

Goldson- 43rd with a ratio of 6.6 (ouch)
Phillips- 1st with 0 missed tackles (I had to adjust to get his, 25% of players, Ward, Goldson, and Byrd's stats are among players with 50% playing time)


And that avg rec of 14.9 YPC ranks 66th among all safeties for Landry. (Ward is 20th, Byrd is 10th)

Goldson- 17th with 10.5 YPC
Phillips- 8th with 8.0 YPC


Did I mention that T.J. Ward was having a fantastic year? Wink


Is that good Kam?

Phillips' numbers would go down, but he missed alot of time. He did end the season with a great game, though.

As far as I'm concerned, there are three great safeties in this years FA. Byrd, Goldson, and Phillips.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamTrus20 wrote:
Where do you get these numbers? Are you a subscribed member somewhere?


PFF. Although Mistake hates that website with a passion, there is some good stuff there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else think that Nnamdi Asomugha's release is imminent? If we snagged him imagine our defense Shocked
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Reginaldm9 wrote:
Anyone else think that Nnamdi Asomugha's release is imminent? If we snagged him imagine our defense Shocked


Sheldon Brown played better than Nnamdi Ashomugha this year so I don't see the improvement.

Thanks bulldog. Goldson wasn't as impressive as I would have expected but still a lot better than what we have.
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RT @arobinson_Trib: Keenan Lewis plans to test free agency. He told #Steelers "they made a mistake" by not offering multi-year deal before 2012 season.


How much would you pay him?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamTrus20 wrote:
Reginaldm9 wrote:
Anyone else think that Nnamdi Asomugha's release is imminent? If we snagged him imagine our defense Shocked


Sheldon Brown played better than Nnamdi Ashomugha this year so I don't see the improvement.

Thanks bulldog. Goldson wasn't as impressive as I would have expected but still a lot better than what we have.


He was totally out of place though. Different scheme different results.
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