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PatriotBeast 
Joined: 22 Apr 2012 Posts: 192 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:29 pm Post subject: Margus Hunt and Tank Carradine(think thats how its spelled) |
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They seem like interesting prospects for mid 2nd to early 3rd
Can you guys give me the General overview of these 2 Freakishly Athletic Dlinemen and others that could possibly be available then?
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Kempes 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hunt just doesn't seem nasty enough to me. He's a freak athlete but I don't think he has that streak in him that can build upon his athleticism and take him to the next level. _________________
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JaguarCrazy2832 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I think Hunt is nasty enough, some guys dont need that mean streak if they have the determination to get the job done. I think hunt will be a steal if he lasts til day 2 _________________
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kethnaab 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | I think Hunt is nasty enough, some guys dont need that mean streak if they have the determination to get the job done. I think hunt will be a steal if he lasts til day 2 |
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KamTrus20
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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I was extremely high on Tank before his injury. I don't have a clue on where to start predicting him falling because of the injury, but I would have had him as a Top 20 player before the ACL. _________________
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| KamTrus20 wrote: | | I was extremely high on Tank before his injury. I don't have a clue on where to start predicting him falling because of the injury, but I would have had him as a Top 20 player before the ACL. | Yeah, I had him somewhere between 10-20 before the ACL injury. Now I have him around 20-30. ACL injuries aren't as serious now as they've been, and I'd only heavily drop him if he shows a bad recovery. _________________ I <3 Kate Upton and Ezekiel Ansah, just FYI
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ark23 
Joined: 04 Dec 2012 Posts: 1401 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| IDOG_det wrote: | | KamTrus20 wrote: | | I was extremely high on Tank before his injury. I don't have a clue on where to start predicting him falling because of the injury, but I would have had him as a Top 20 player before the ACL. | Yeah, I had him somewhere between 10-20 before the ACL injury. Now I have him around 20-30. ACL injuries aren't as serious now as they've been, and I'd only heavily drop him if he shows a bad recovery. |
Very much in agreement with you. He's still a first round prospect and his potential is high if he returns to form. Really explosive athlete, violent hands great rip move.
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Canadian Saint 
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| KamTrus20 wrote: | | I was extremely high on Tank before his injury. I don't have a clue on where to start predicting him falling because of the injury, but I would have had him as a Top 20 player before the ACL. |
What did you see his potential as? What was his limitations? _________________
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KamTrus20
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Canadian Saint wrote: | | KamTrus20 wrote: | | I was extremely high on Tank before his injury. I don't have a clue on where to start predicting him falling because of the injury, but I would have had him as a Top 20 player before the ACL. |
What did you see his potential as? What was his limitations? |
I don't know about limitations but one thing I noticed that I hate is him reaching. I don't know the proper scouting terms for it, but he would reach with his outside hand and try to get behind the OT to propel himself past. When he did this it opens up his body and allowes a good OT to get into him and end it right there. He did make it work a few times but it will never work in the NFL. _________________
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jrry32
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Tank was working his way into the top 20 before his injury. Similar physically to Aldon Smith but imo he doesn't have Aldon's lower body strength or as violent of hands. Still, very long with a great frame, long arms, great burst off the edge, has the ability to dip around the corner and showed good instincts despite his lack of D-1 experience.
Tank is going to be a great pick-up somewhere if he lands with the right DL/OLB Coach. _________________
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49ers Finest
Joined: 28 Dec 2011 Posts: 5719 Location: San Jose
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| jrry32 wrote: | Tank was working his way into the top 20 before his injury. Similar physically to Aldon Smith but imo he doesn't have Aldon's lower body strength or as violent of hands. Still, very long with a great frame, long arms, great burst off the edge, has the ability to dip around the corner and showed good instincts despite his lack of D-1 experience.
Tank is going to be a great pick-up somewhere if he lands with the right DL/OLB Coach. |
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PatriotBeast 
Joined: 22 Apr 2012 Posts: 192 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Also, ive seen a mock where Akeem Spence has been drafted by the Patriots in the 3rd rd.
Can you guys give me an overview of what he brings to the table?any concerns? |
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norcalgsr 
Joined: 09 Jun 2012 Posts: 496
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Some smart team will move Margus Hunt to Tight End. |
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Raiders4sho! 
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| kethnaab wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | I think Hunt is nasty enough, some guys dont need that mean streak if they have the determination to get the job done. I think hunt will be a steal if he lasts til day 2 |
Stubby arms for a dude his height |
?? Almost a 7 foot wingspan bro. And I want so bad to be impressed by hunt. Has through the roof potential if he could work on his hands and leverage. _________________
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Tugboat 
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| norcalgsr wrote: | | Some smart team will move Margus Hunt to Tight End. |
I was thinking about this earlier, but i just don't really see it.
The guy's measurables are pretty interesting...but he really seems to lack a real killer instinct when it comes to hitting and the sort of relentless pursuit i'd want to see there. Doesn't really seem to grasp a lot of the subtleties (though that's understandable given limited development), but also seems to get caught leaning all over the place.
Maybe that comes in time, but he just doesn't strike me as a natural, instinctive pass rusher. His physical tools get him far, but it all seems stiff and awkward a lot of the time.
It's interesting to consider what sort of TE he could be, or could've been if he'd started there earlier. From what i understand, a former shotput/discus thrower? So i'd figure pretty strong hands, which would seem an advantage. But that certainly doesn't mean he has soft hands. And if the guy can't catch...he's not gonna be much good as a TE. He also doesn't really seem that quick, and his balance/leverage issues are still going to be an issue at TE, in terms of blocking.
It's an interesting thought though. I just don't really see it. |
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