Luke Joeckel with our 1st Pick to solidify the line

Raiiiiidersssss · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 4117 Location: The Black Hole

(Mods - I know there is a draft thread. Of course, feel free to lock this up if you deem necessary. I didn't want this idea to be buried, and I wanted to stimulate discussion on this issue)

I'm predicting the NFL draft will unfold as follows:

1. Chiefs - Geno Smith
2. Jaguars - Star Lotulelie
3. Raiders -

Since my man crush has just been taken, what if we went Luke Joeckel with our first pick? He compares favorably to Joe Thomas, and one site heralded him as the "Calvin Johnson of left tackles."

I know our defense needs work. But our offensive line didn't play great this year. We could move Veldheer (who has, at times, gotten abused at LT) to RT and bring in Joeckel to play LT.

Our line could look something like:

Joeckel - Wisnewski - Parsons(?) - Brisel - Veldheer

tl;dr I want Star, but if he is taken and we can't trade down, I think that I would rather take Joeckel than one of the DEs. Thoughts?
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macklemore · Joined: 27 Apr 2012 Posts: 1425 Location: Seattle, WA

Joeckel > Star

Trade down should be priority number 1 if we can't trade down I'm taking Joeckel.
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RaidersAreOne · Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject:

My top three players are Star, Moore and Joeckel. Any of the three on this team would make us much better and ultimately make me happy.
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Darkness · Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 4166 Location: CA-TX

We're in a great position to trade down with a team wanting to draft Joeckel with the Eagles drafting right behind us.
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macklemore · Joined: 27 Apr 2012 Posts: 1425 Location: Seattle, WA

I see you moved Wisniewski back to LG in the OP, does anyone think Khalif Barnes could play LG? he hasn't played guard in the NFL but I don't think it's that big of a transition.
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Bo_Spice · Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 7076

If we're going to address the offensive line, I'd much rather move back acquire some picks and take Taylor Lewan.
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G · Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 3117 Location: Hollywierd

If I could have Jim Lachey or Chester McGlockton, I'm wanting Lachey...
Though a big piggie at NT would be great...We might be able to get one in round 3 as they usually slide or are over hyped. If Death Star is the next Ngata it will be hard to pass, however I think he will get picked before us and if a trade down isn't happening, then Joeckel would be my pick. Keeps the QB upright and opens some holes for the RB. Try to sign JV to a long-term contract before the Draft and move him to RT. If he's paid well enough to sign, I doubt he cares what side he's on. If he won't sign then he might want to leave in FA so a LT now would be wise. I also like the idea of getting a C and putting Wisnewski back at G.
A great DE would be tempting, but the info I've seen has them all a bit undersized 'tweeners' and I'm not using a top 5 pick on a tweener...Combine and workouts will hopefully show who's serious about moving up the charts...

holyghost · Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 5306

Is Joeckel really the Calvin Johnson of left tackles? If that is the kind of prospect he is, then it's a no brainer. But is he really that kind of dominant player? I am genuinely asking.

RaiderX · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 17111 Location: Crown Town, CA

big_palooka · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 19040 Location: ATL

dawsonleery · Joined: 31 Oct 2012 Posts: 316

I think Eagles and Cards will be eying him... We NEED to trade down. Plus Buffalo at 8 will be looking for a QB. We are in a good position to pick up some more draft picks.

nbaker1933 · Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 1990

I think our biggest need is a pass rusher, we had one of the worst pass rushes in the NFL.

additionally I think he has an increased value as the premier left tackle, and may be the most desireable player when our turn comes up, I think he is our best bet to trade back.

Raiders4sho! · Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:00 pm Post subject:

bitty · Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 2985

Here's the problem with drafting a LT.
JV is an above average tackle and he still young and can improve. So if you draft an OT and he can't beat out JV, you just spent the third pick in the draft on a RT.

Plus i really want Howie's baby to play RT.