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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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John Shoop has interviewed with the #Titans for a quarterback coach position, per http://ESPNChicago.com .
Doesn't sound like good news for Dowell Loggains.


I'm a NC fan, if we can adopt UNC's offense I'll be happy. I love the balance and the way they run their offense.

They were #8 in the country with 40 points a game. They pull their lineman to run and bootleg.

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Johnathan Cooper OG for UNC. I want him in the 2nd.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm expecting Dowell Loggains to be the #Titans offensive coordinator in 2013 after geting promoted at the end of 2012 season

Well after such an impressive audition, how could he not be given the job?

But yes, this is all Mike Reinfeldt's fault. He must go! Laughing Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really though, I just don't get it. What has Loggains done to deserve this promotion?

Yes, I'm not around the team so I can't really pretend to know everything that goes on behind the scenes, but from an outsider's perspective, he's been the QB coach for Vince Young, whose story is well known, and Jake Locker, who has really failed to progress in any way since we drafted him.

And in his five games as the offensive coordinator, the overall productivity of the offense took a big step backwards while Jake Locker's game took a massive hit. I just can't possibly understand why, if we are looking at hiring from within, it wouldn't be Tom Moore. But really, after this season, we have no business looking to fill the position from within regardless.

Let the start of another frustrating offseason begin I suppose.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loggains was that young up and comer type that generated a decent amount of excitement around here when he was promoted. Should we just fire him because he didn't create a decent offense while taking over towards the end of the year? I'm actually fine with him getting a chance to stick around considering the things I've read about him and his potential.
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Loggains was that young up and comer type that generated a decent amount of excitement around here when he was promoted. Should we just fire him because he didn't create a decent offense while taking over towards the end of the year? I'm actually fine with him getting a chance to stick around considering the things I've read about him and his potential.
My issue is...what exactly has he done to generate that excitement? Was it his work with Vince Young? Or all the progress we have seen from Jake Locker? Or maybe the high octane and original playcalling we got to witness in the last five games?

He may have a great football mind, but I'd like to see some actual progress from the players he is in charge of coaching before handing over the reins of our offense to him. I was optimistic when we promoted him, but looking back, I don't even know why. Most of us were simply happy to have Palmer gone. Munch's job is on the line, I'd like to see him move away from the status quo that failed us so often this season.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

titans0021 wrote:
Double Agent wrote:
Loggains was that young up and comer type that generated a decent amount of excitement around here when he was promoted. Should we just fire him because he didn't create a decent offense while taking over towards the end of the year? I'm actually fine with him getting a chance to stick around considering the things I've read about him and his potential.
My issue is...what exactly has he done to generate that excitement? Was it his work with Vince Young? Or all the progress we have seen from Jake Locker? Or maybe the high octane and original playcalling we got to witness in the last five games?

He may have a great football mind, but I'd like to see some actual progress from the players he is in charge of coaching before handing over the reins of our offense to him. I was optimistic when we promoted him, but looking back, I don't even know why. Most of us were simply happy to have Palmer gone. Munch's job is on the line, I'd like to see him move away from the status quo that failed us so often this season.


To be fair on the VY point, VY made a lot of progress throwing the football in 2009 and 2010..just didn't mature mentally.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Shoop is probably the worst offensive coordinator of all time. I remember watching his offenses as a kid when he was with the Bears. I would be like "Dad why dont they throw the ball down the field on 3rd down instead of just a screen pass??"


Mr. Deeluxx never had an answer. Hiring Shoop would be idiotic and everyone in Chicago would laugh at us and especially me and latinoaustino.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deeluxx3 wrote:
John Shoop is probably the worst offensive coordinator of all time. I remember watching his offenses as a kid when he was with the Bears. I would be like "Dad why dont they throw the ball down the field on 3rd down instead of just a screen pass??"


Mr. Deeluxx never had an answer. Hiring Shoop would be idiotic and everyone in Chicago would laugh at us and especially me and latinoaustino.


Sounds like our guy then.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Really though, I just don't get it. What has Loggains done to deserve this promotion?

Yes, I'm not around the team so I can't really pretend to know everything that goes on behind the scenes, but from an outsider's perspective, he's been the QB coach for Vince Young, whose story is well known, and Jake Locker, who has really failed to progress in any way since we drafted him.

And in his five games as the offensive coordinator, the overall productivity of the offense took a big step backwards while Jake Locker's game took a massive hit. I just can't possibly understand why, if we are looking at hiring from within, it wouldn't be Tom Moore. But really, after this season, we have no business looking to fill the position from within regardless.

Let the start of another frustrating offseason begin I suppose.


That is incorrect. Craig Johnson was QBs coach with the Titans from 2000-10. He left when Fisher got the boot and that is when Loggains got promoted to QBs coach under Munch. Craig Johnson was steakhouse king's QB coach.
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Why the hell is there still no word on Jerry Gray? Now is the time to find a DC.


Because he will be back as the DC next year. He made strides near the end became more aggressive. Games early defense played good offense was anemic hard for a defense to play well battling short fields and no rest all game.

Granted I wouldn't mind a new one but Gray did make strides but with keeping the same OC around I guess that means same issues will arise. Here's to another mediocre up and down year just good enough to assure us with a mid 1st rounder and everyone to keep their jobs. If not promoting within.
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lmao...we're just going to keep the same pathetic staff. This organization is a joke.
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deeluxx3 wrote:
John Shoop is probably the worst offensive coordinator of all time. I remember watching his offenses as a kid when he was with the Bears. I would be like "Dad why dont they throw the ball down the field on 3rd down instead of just a screen pass??"


Mr. Deeluxx never had an answer. Hiring Shoop would be idiotic and everyone in Chicago would laugh at us and especially me and latinoaustino.


To be fair, Chicago didn't field the greatest stable of QB talent in those years. For that matter, they didn't have a whole lot of offensive talent in general.
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-Hope- wrote:
lmao...we're just going to keep the same pathetic staff. This organization is a joke.


Even if we did let go of our guys it would be extremely hard to get a guy in like Norv Turner or Ron Rivera to be a coordinator because they don't know how long Munch will be there. They would basically be signing a one year contract. I don't know about you, but I'd want more stability than that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UTMoc10 wrote:
-Hope- wrote:
lmao...we're just going to keep the same pathetic staff. This organization is a joke.


Even if we did let go of our guys it would be extremely hard to get a guy in like Norv Turner or Ron Rivera to be a coordinator because they don't know how long Munch will be there. They would basically be signing a one year contract. I don't know about you, but I'd want more stability than that.


If people thought we were just going to assemble this "dream team" of assistant coaches then they were living in Fantasy Land.

Turner as OC
Rivera as DC
Might as well kept going and said Bruce Arians as QB Coach
Mike Nolan as LB Coach
Lovie Smith as D-Line Coach
Nick Saban as Defensive Backs coach
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MdTitansFan56 wrote:
SpaceAgePimp wrote:
Why the hell is there still no word on Jerry Gray? Now is the time to find a DC.


Because he will be back as the DC next year. He made strides near the end became more aggressive. Games early defense played good offense was anemic hard for a defense to play well battling short fields and no rest all game.

Granted I wouldn't mind a new one but Gray did make strides but with keeping the same OC around I guess that means same issues will arise. Here's to another mediocre up and down year just good enough to assure us with a mid 1st rounder and everyone to keep their jobs. If not promoting within.


I don't understand this. In the beginning of the season, we were on pace for having the worst defense of all time for points allowed- historically bad. Then, instead of having an NFL record for points allowed, we have a team record. How is this a guy that deserves another year? I don't care how bad the circumstance were that he had to deal with- having a historically bad defense is not acceptable, or it shouldn't be at least. This is such an embarassing team. We need wholesale change, and yet, we promote Loggains and keep Gray? We had a terrible team- one that should have gotten higher than the 10th pick and nothing really happens. Midseason- Palmer wasn't even the problem, ti was the defenese, and yet, he's the only one to be fired.
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