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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought they would give him another year. I'm a little surprised with this firing.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate this. Andy Reid makes too much sense here. Whisenhunt shouldnt have a problem finding a job. Think Arians will also be favorite.
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I liked Whisenhunt, i blame Groves for not finding better talent at offensive line, QB and RB positions, and for taking a WR in the first round over one of those positions [QB or OL].

They fired Groves the GM, good... should of gave Whisenhunt another shot with a better GM.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Spikes wrote:
I liked Whisenhunt, i blame Groves for not finding better talent at offensive line, QB and RB and for taking a WR in the first round over one of those positions [QB or OL].

They fired Groves the GM, good... should of gave Whisenhunt another shot with a better GM.
Unless Whiz was the Rex Ryan (which I don't believe either) he has a major say in who they draft and trade for *cough Kolb*
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skatebeanz wrote:
Billy Spikes wrote:
I liked Whisenhunt, i blame Groves for not finding better talent at offensive line, QB and RB and for taking a WR in the first round over one of those positions [QB or OL].

They fired Groves the GM, good... should of gave Whisenhunt another shot with a better GM.
Unless Whiz was the Rex Ryan (which I don't believe either) he has a major say in who they draft and trade for *cough Kolb*
I think Larry Fitzgerald made that decision. Laughing
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chris00cm wrote:
skatebeanz wrote:
Billy Spikes wrote:
I liked Whisenhunt, i blame Groves for not finding better talent at offensive line, QB and RB and for taking a WR in the first round over one of those positions [QB or OL].

They fired Groves the GM, good... should of gave Whisenhunt another shot with a better GM.
Unless Whiz was the Rex Ryan (which I don't believe either) he has a major say in who they draft and trade for *cough Kolb*
I think Larry Fitzgerald made that decision. Laughing
Just another reason a player regardless of talent should have a say on roster moves.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Spikes wrote:
I liked Whisenhunt, i blame Groves for not finding better talent at offensive line, QB and RB positions, and for taking a WR in the first round over one of those positions [QB or OL].

They fired Groves the GM, good... should of gave Whisenhunt another shot with a better GM.


For one, it's Graves, not Groves. Secondly, Whiz had significant personnel say. That ezcuse doesn't fly.
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stchamp98 wrote:
Billy Spikes wrote:
I liked Whisenhunt, i blame Groves for not finding better talent at offensive line, QB and RB positions, and for taking a WR in the first round over one of those positions [QB or OL].

They fired Groves the GM, good... should of gave Whisenhunt another shot with a better GM.


For one, it's Graves, not Groves. Secondly, Whiz had significant personnel say. That ezcuse doesn't fly.


Fair enough but i still put most of the blame on the lack of talent on the roster on the GM's shoulders.
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Billy Spikes wrote:
stchamp98 wrote:
Billy Spikes wrote:
I liked Whisenhunt, i blame Groves for not finding better talent at offensive line, QB and RB positions, and for taking a WR in the first round over one of those positions [QB or OL].

They fired Groves the GM, good... should of gave Whisenhunt another shot with a better GM.


For one, it's Graves, not Groves. Secondly, Whiz had significant personnel say. That ezcuse doesn't fly.


Fair enough but i still put most of the blame on the lack of talent on the roster on the GM's shoulders.


And, no offense, that would be based entirely on nothing.
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Surprising. Thought they'd keep him one more year. Think Ray Horton has to be the favorite right now.


If they were smart...but lets hope they aren't.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want Whiz to be the Jets OC.
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I think Whis ends up as an OC for the next few years, but I think if Jerry Jones could learn to loosen his grip (ha!), he would be a good fit in Dallas. That team needs an authority that Jason Garret cannot provide. Unfortunately, I can't envision Jerry and Whis getting along.
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I want Whiz to be the Raiders OC.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be cool with him as HC.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whiz will get another chance, maybe even this year. I think he could do a good job in San Diego, they already have a QB, and they run a 3-4. He is not a bad coach by any means, as a matter of fact, if the Cardinals don't replace him with Ray Horton then I will be upset by the decision to let Whiz go.

same goes for Rod Graves...he was not a bad GM while he was here overall. And if we dont replace him with in-house favorite Steve Keim I will be upset to see him gone.
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