Discuss football with over 60,000 fans. Free Membership. Join now!

 FAQFAQ  RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

FootballsFuture.com Forum Index
FootballsFuture.com Home

Jets officially fire GM Mike Tannenbaum; Keep HC Rex Ryan
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    FootballsFuture.com Forum Index -> NFL News
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
ukjets21


Joined: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 18594
Location: Newcastle, from Carlisle
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CalhounLambeau wrote:
I don't think anyone can say Rex Ryan isn't a good coach, most people can agree he's just not a great fit as a head coach, he just doesn't have the right mentality for the job. I think what you have to look for is a Tomlin, McCarthy or Mike Smith kind of personality who commands respect and can run a locker room.


Rex has improved in things such as game management every year, his problems have been in trying to be a HC to the detriment of managing the defence personally. You don't need to be like Tomlin to command respect, Rex still has the players playing for him, he's handled troublesome characters very well. Lazy players like Cromartie play their hearts out for him, Cro doesn't shy from contact, he goes all in for tackles now. That's on Rex.

tylerdouglass wrote:
But since then, the Jets have been a circus act at times.


We were back then too, it's his style and it worked for us. It hasn't worked as well the past two years but his success earns him time for me. We'd be a stupid joke of an organisation to get rid of Rex that quickly. I'm proud to be a Jets fan now, that despite all the stupidity Woody showed in bringing in Tebow and the Favre circus before Rex too, the organisation didn't get rid of its best head coach for a long time.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jrry32


Joined: 04 Jan 2011
Posts: 48578
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:
I think keeping Rex was a mistake.


I agree. If I'm a GM candidate, my response is no thank you. I'm not getting involved with that mess unless I get my HC candidate.
_________________
The LBC wrote:
Harper41 wrote:
Don't worry. Sean Payton would pass the ball in a Tornado.

But would he do it in a Sharknado?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
QB Connoisseur


Joined: 20 Nov 2010
Posts: 3435
Location: Tiger Stadium
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrry32 wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
I think keeping Rex was a mistake.


I agree. If I'm a GM candidate, my response is no thank you. I'm not getting involved with that mess unless I get my HC candidate.


Agree 100%

The Jets will end up having to hire someone with no experience that's really desperate for a GM job. Why would anyone with any other options take the job? You don't get your own HC, you have to deal with the Tebow fiasco, the quarterback situation is a mess... What's the upside?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Malik


Joined: 18 Dec 2011
Posts: 4446
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QB Connoisseur wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
I think keeping Rex was a mistake.


I agree. If I'm a GM candidate, my response is no thank you. I'm not getting involved with that mess unless I get my HC candidate.


Agree 100%

The Jets will end up having to hire someone with no experience that's really desperate for a GM job. Why would anyone with any other options take the job? You don't get your own HC, you have to deal with the Tebow fiasco, the quarterback situation is a mess... What's the upside?


Tebow isn't going to be on the team and no one is going to argue for Sanchez being the starter if he is still on the team next season.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jrry32


Joined: 04 Jan 2011
Posts: 48578
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malik wrote:
QB Connoisseur wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
I think keeping Rex was a mistake.


I agree. If I'm a GM candidate, my response is no thank you. I'm not getting involved with that mess unless I get my HC candidate.


Agree 100%

The Jets will end up having to hire someone with no experience that's really desperate for a GM job. Why would anyone with any other options take the job? You don't get your own HC, you have to deal with the Tebow fiasco, the quarterback situation is a mess... What's the upside?


Tebow isn't going to be on the team and no one is going to argue for Sanchez being the starter if he is still on the team next season.


It really doesn't matter because I just can't see Rex Ryan being an easy guy to work with. And if I'm a new GM, I want to be able to do everything I can to help build the Jets into a Super Bowl contender. If I don't see Rex as the right coach, I need the ability to move on.

And that's just not going to make it a good working relationship. From the get go, you're coming in with the idea that the guy you have to work with isn't the right guy. Doesn't make it easy for either of you to trust or work together which can lead to a power struggle and a lot of tension.

It's a really bad move. If you want a legitimate GM candidate, you need to give him the power to make the moves he thinks are necessary to build the team into a SB contender...including the HC job.
_________________
The LBC wrote:
Harper41 wrote:
Don't worry. Sean Payton would pass the ball in a Tornado.

But would he do it in a Sharknado?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
The LBC


Global Moderator
Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 25137
Location: Where We Can't Have Nice Things
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually agree with them holding onto Rex but not for the reason that many on here do (or for what I'm sure are the expectations of Woody Johnson). If Woody would just accept a year of being (and folks don't murder me for the example, but it's fitting because they've been doing this exact sort of purge) "Raiders bad," he could set that franchise up for a clean break and fresh start with a new HC and a competent GM with a staff & FO system already in place.

Very few coaches are going to want to go there when the front office - and thus their personnel - are hamstrung in such a way because of finances. So you hold onto Rex, because if you wanted there's "enough" (I'm not saying it's glaring but a defensible case could be made) grounds to fire him now and barring a miracle there will be this time next year as well, and you start the purge - shed overpaid and underachieving players where and how you can, eat cap hits if you have to, restructure and offer "buy-outs" where you can, all with the aim of having a lot of spots to fill but the necessary resources available to do so in 2014.

Again, I doubt that happens. I don't believe Woody Johnson has the gumption to take a year's shellacking in the NY media, particularly if the Giants bounce back from this season with any kind of fire or consistency.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Emerica


Joined: 12 Nov 2011
Posts: 1422
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So apparently Bill Polian has said no to the Jets.

Quote:
Former #Bills and #Colts GM Bill Polian was contacted by the #Jets to replace GM Mike Tannenbaum, he turned the #Jets down.

_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
El ramster


Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 45841
Location: Paul George's Bed.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bring Rex or Lovey to Stlouis..

Fisher would pimp slamp him if Rex opens that mouth.
_________________


mozwanted wrote:
I'm beginning to like the rg3 trade
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ukjets21


Joined: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 18594
Location: Newcastle, from Carlisle
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emerica wrote:
So apparently Bill Polian has said no to the Jets.

Quote:
Former #Bills and #Colts GM Bill Polian was contacted by the #Jets to replace GM Mike Tannenbaum, he turned the #Jets down.


Bill Polian obviously took pity on the Jets and decided against ruining us further.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
RaidersAreOne


Joined: 28 Jun 2008
Posts: 9558
Location: Canada, but don't worry... i'm not one of those damn dirty french.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emerica wrote:
So apparently Bill Polian has said no to the Jets.

Quote:
Former #Bills and #Colts GM Bill Polian was contacted by the #Jets to replace GM Mike Tannenbaum, he turned the #Jets down.


One of many I assume.
_________________

First jersey purchased: Jamarcus Russell.
Second jersey purchased: Rolando McClain.
Next purchases: Every Chiefs, Chargers and Broncos player.
JTagg7754 on the sig.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
marshawn lynch


Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Posts: 18479
Location: Syracuse NY
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emerica wrote:
So apparently Bill Polian has said no to the Jets.

Quote:
Former #Bills and #Colts GM Bill Polian was contacted by the #Jets to replace GM Mike Tannenbaum, he turned the #Jets down.
Seems kind of stupid to just offer the job to someone without really exploring other options.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
roysmyboy31


Moderator
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 20774
Location: NY
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rex is a solid coach IMO and deserved to be kept IMO. It was just two seasons ago that he was coaching them to their 2nd consecutive AFC Title game. Even in the modern football world, that should buy you some time. The talent base has simply eroded around him to the point where the Jets have one of the least talented rosters offense-wise in the league. That's on the GM.
_________________
NFL: Dallas Cowboys
College Football: Notre Dame Fighting Irish
NHL: New York Rangers
MLB: New York Yankees
College Basketball: NC State Wolfpack
Soccer: FC Bayern Munich
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jrry32


Joined: 04 Jan 2011
Posts: 48578
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The LBC wrote:
I actually agree with them holding onto Rex but not for the reason that many on here do (or for what I'm sure are the expectations of Woody Johnson). If Woody would just accept a year of being (and folks don't murder me for the example, but it's fitting because they've been doing this exact sort of purge) "Raiders bad," he could set that franchise up for a clean break and fresh start with a new HC and a competent GM with a staff & FO system already in place.

Very few coaches are going to want to go there when the front office - and thus their personnel - are hamstrung in such a way because of finances. So you hold onto Rex, because if you wanted there's "enough" (I'm not saying it's glaring but a defensible case could be made) grounds to fire him now and barring a miracle there will be this time next year as well, and you start the purge - shed overpaid and underachieving players where and how you can, eat cap hits if you have to, restructure and offer "buy-outs" where you can, all with the aim of having a lot of spots to fill but the necessary resources available to do so in 2014.

Again, I doubt that happens. I don't believe Woody Johnson has the gumption to take a year's shellacking in the NY media, particularly if the Giants bounce back from this season with any kind of fire or consistency.


But they can do this all now, eat the cap hits next year and be at that point in 2014 instead of having to wait until 2015.
_________________
The LBC wrote:
Harper41 wrote:
Don't worry. Sean Payton would pass the ball in a Tornado.

But would he do it in a Sharknado?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ukjets21


Joined: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 18594
Location: Newcastle, from Carlisle
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roysmyboy31 wrote:
Rex is a solid coach IMO and deserved to be kept IMO. It was just two seasons ago that he was coaching them to their 2nd consecutive AFC Title game. Even in the modern football world, that should buy you some time. The talent base has simply eroded around him to the point where the Jets have one of the least talented rosters offense-wise in the league. That's on the GM.


Thank you for actually showing some sense concerning the Jets.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
game3525


Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Posts: 6402
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Rex is a good coach, but it makes no sense to keep him as coach while firing the GM.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   

Post new topic   Reply to topic    FootballsFuture.com Forum Index -> NFL News All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Page 3 of 5

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum




Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group