| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Most pressing defensive need |
| Defensive Tackle |
|
47% |
[ 11 ] |
| Corner (x2) |
|
52% |
[ 12 ] |
| Free Safety |
|
0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Linebacker |
|
0% |
[ 0 ] |
|
| Total Votes : 23 |
|
| Author |
Message |
RaidersAreOne
Joined: 28 Jun 2008
Posts: 4777
Location: Canada, Where All We Do Is Play Hockey And Sleep In Igloos
|
 Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
|
I wont say it is the most pressing need, but I really hope we either get DT or DE in the draft. Build up into the trenches and that will pour over into helping the secondary and LBers.
_________________
First jersey purchased: Jamarcus Russell.
Second jersey purchased: Rolando McClain.
Next purchases: Every Chiefs, Chargers and Broncos player. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Silver&Black88
Joined: 24 Feb 2009
Posts: 25030
Location: Rochester, NY
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Add a real pass rusher and our defense gets a lot better imo. Give me Moore or Werner. We could use help at CB, S, MLB and DT too but I think that a sack artist RE would help us most.
_________________
| green24 wrote: | | Did you go to the Testicle Festival? |
| Billy Spikes wrote: | | i might kidnap the real Jennifer Lawrence one day |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bo_Spice
Joined: 17 May 2009
Posts: 7076
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
If we're going to stay put at number three I'd prefer Star Lotulelei or Damontre Moore. If we move back in the top ten I'd prefer Dee Milliner, Sheldon Richardson, or Bjoern Werner. If we move back later in the draft I'd prefer Dion Jordan, Xavier Rhodes, or Kawaan Short. It all just depends on where we're picking.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Roninho
Joined: 10 Feb 2009
Posts: 1621
Location: The Netherlands
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Bo_Spice wrote: | | If we're going to stay put at number three I'd prefer Star Lotulelei or Damontre Moore. If we move back in the top ten I'd prefer Dee Milliner, Sheldon Richardson, or Bjoern Werner. If we move back later in the draft I'd prefer Dion Jordan, Xavier Rhodes, or Kawaan Short. It all just depends on where we're picking. |
if i could pick a scenario I' d love to see us trade down and get more picks in the 1st and 2nd round.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
early43
Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Posts: 988
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
The play of our defense late really makes the job Knapp did that much worse. Think about all the change over we had on defense compared to offense personnel wise. We cut our best pass rusher, best CB, played Huff at CB, which put Gio on the field full time, lost both new starting CB, cut Curry, saw Kelly regress, watched Seymour collect money for nothing, and all this with a first time DC.
Its disgusting that our defense actually ended up being our bright spot at the conclusion of the season. 3 rushing TD's all season?? Ridiculous. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
NCOUGHMAN
Joined: 25 Mar 2008
Posts: 12641
Location: Stockton via East Palo Alto
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| RaisinBran wrote: | I liked Shaugnessy a lot last year and this year idk what his deal is. Seems like he kinda just lost it. Has a just regressed?
Kelly and Seymour have regressed big time and were a huge problem for us in the first half of the season.
Once Des Bryant started getting more playing time, and once McClain's starting role was taken away, it seemed like our D played better. |
i have a love hate relationship with shonny and tko.
at times they can look unstoppable but at other times they just suck
_________________
| green24 wrote: | | NCOUGHMAN >>>>>> all of you |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Baggabonez
Joined: 29 Apr 2010
Posts: 3855
Location: RaiderNation
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Flawed poll. NT, DT/UT & DE should be the top 3 options or just DL since all those positions won't be addressed in one offseason. As long as one of these is addressed in a major way I'll be happy.
_________________
2013 Mancrush: DT Richardson, OT Joeckel, FS Vaccaro, FS Rambo, WR Dobson, RB Michael, TE McDonald, OT Foketi, WR Swope |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ch8878
Joined: 12 Mar 2012
Posts: 1001
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
The Raiders had the No. 18-ranked overall defense this season, after being 29th last year. Sacks, though went down from 39 to 25.
Guess that might be why they kept Tarver hopefully with better talent the defense can improve even more.
_________________
| Al Davis wrote: | | Don't believe in schemes, believe in players. |
| Tyler Wilson wrote: | | Let the guys know that even if I'm not right the first time, we're going to get it right eventually. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
macklemore
Joined: 27 Apr 2012
Posts: 1425
Location: Seattle, WA
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| ch8878 wrote: | The Raiders had the No. 18-ranked overall defense this season, after being 29th last year. Sacks, though went down from 39 to 25.
Guess that might be why they kept Tarver hopefully with better talent the defense can improve even more. |
No. 28th ranked defense
points > yards
teams didn't have to pile up the yards on the raiders because once they got the lead they didn't have to worry too much about the raiders taking it back.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DOCLEW 28
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Posts: 10599
Location: East Oakland
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | We still need a starting CB, but I was pleased with the play (for the most part) of some of the young guys like Ross, Adams and Chekwa down the stretch. We still have ansah on the PS and Hanson for the slot, I think CB will be a good competition in TC. |
All of those CBs we had late in the season are fringe NFL guys we got off the scrap heap. We need bona fide starters at that position.
_________________
Raider X hooked me with the sig |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DOCLEW 28
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Posts: 10599
Location: East Oakland
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | We still need a starting CB, but I was pleased with the play (for the most part) of some of the young guys like Ross, Adams and Chekwa down the stretch. We still have ansah on the PS and Hanson for the slot, I think CB will be a good competition in TC. |
All of those CBs we had late in the season are fringe NFL guys we got off the scrap heap. We need bona fide starters at that position. If we could trade down even a couple of times we could possibly come up wit multiple 2nd rounders to use on that position.
_________________
Raider X hooked me with the sig |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
OakRaiders3828
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 9267
Location: Pennsylvania
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | We still need a starting CB, but I was pleased with the play (for the most part) of some of the young guys like Ross, Adams and Chekwa down the stretch. We still have ansah on the PS and Hanson for the slot, I think CB will be a good competition in TC. |
All of those CBs we had late in the season are fringe NFL guys we got off the scrap heap. We need bona fide starters at that position. |
Adams is good depth, I wouldn't call him a fringe player necessarily. They really liked Adams in Seattle he just fell victim to the numbers game. I'm not calling them great players or starters, I said we still need a starting caliber CB, but they did a good job for being in the position they were in and I meant they will be good competition in TC at the very least. (I'm mainly talking about Ross and Adams)
_________________
O A K L A N D R A I D E R S
Joe_is_the_best on the sig! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DOCLEW 28
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Posts: 10599
Location: East Oakland
|
| Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
I agree with that. I just dont wanna go into the season as them being our primary guys.
_________________
Raider X hooked me with the sig |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
holyghost
Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 5327
|
| Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | We still need a starting CB, but I was pleased with the play (for the most part) of some of the young guys like Ross, Adams and Chekwa down the stretch. We still have ansah on the PS and Hanson for the slot, I think CB will be a good competition in TC. |
All of those CBs we had late in the season are fringe NFL guys we got off the scrap heap. We need bona fide starters at that position. |
Adams is good depth, I wouldn't call him a fringe player necessarily. They really liked Adams in Seattle he just fell victim to the numbers game. I'm not calling them great players or starters, I said we still need a starting caliber CB, but they did a good job for being in the position they were in and I meant they will be good competition in TC at the very least. (I'm mainly talking about Ross and Adams) |
Look at the young players at CB for Seattle. Being cut by them is no indictment of Adams. They have the best starting duo of young guys in the league. Not best overall, just best pair of young ones. For once I believe Adams was truly the victim of a numbers game there. He's not bad.
Raider fans tend to be obsessed with name recognition. I don't care if Adams starts. If he can play like he did this past year for that 3 game stretch when he was the starter, he's a very nice starter. A full year of that is a really good year of solid play. Can he provide a full year at that level, that is the question. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
holyghost
Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 5327
|
| Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Honestly, if Adams, Ross, Chekwa, and Spencer are our 4 man corps next year I won't vomit profusely about it. I mean I would love to see another very solid player in there rather than Spencer, because who knows when he gets hurt again. And Adams may not have a long career, as it seems he grouped some concussions together there, which is a bad sign. I would also like to see more of Ross at joker and safety, because I think he is better there. But still, our CBs look alot better now than they did earlier in the season because two young guys stepped up and did something adequate. All we need is performers, don't care what their names are.
All in all I have to say it's still a need, but not nearly as dire as it was at one time when Bartell and Spencer first went down. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
