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Whiffleballtony


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does everyone think of OLB/DE Barwin? I think he would have the potential to put up Babin type numbers in this defense without an Avril like contract. Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whiffleballtony wrote:
What does everyone think of OLB/DE Barwin? I think he would have the potential to put up Babin type numbers in this defense without an Avril like contract. Thoughts?


I think he could be a good fit at LDE, but pending his price as you mentioned. I'm not sure he will come a ton cheaper than Avril.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird question here, but does anyone follow Chris Houston on Instagram? Because I was told apparently he made some comments that indicate he won't be back. Like, "Chances are I won't be back in the D" in response to someone asking him to "post something when he's back in the D" and stuff like that, maybe sonething about numbers not lining up and how it's a business. I figured maybe someone already follows him or feels like following him and looking for these comments (because I sure as hell don't).
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDOG_det wrote:
Weird question here, but does anyone follow Chris Houston on Instagram? Because I was told apparently he made some comments that indicate he won't be back. Like, "Chances are I won't be back in the D" in response to someone asking him to "post something when he's back in the D" and stuff like that, maybe sonething about numbers not lining up and how it's a business. I figured maybe someone already follows him or feels like following him and looking for these comments (because I sure as hell don't).

I don't have an Instagram but I follow him on twitter and throughout the season he would retweet tweets of "pay the man" or "#HoustonIsland" (etc). I just feel like he's going to test FA and look for a big payday.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EhJae wrote:
IDOG_det wrote:
Weird question here, but does anyone follow Chris Houston on Instagram? Because I was told apparently he made some comments that indicate he won't be back. Like, "Chances are I won't be back in the D" in response to someone asking him to "post something when he's back in the D" and stuff like that, maybe sonething about numbers not lining up and how it's a business. I figured maybe someone already follows him or feels like following him and looking for these comments (because I sure as hell don't).

I don't have an Instagram but I follow him on twitter and throughout the season he would retweet tweets of "pay the man" or "#HoustonIsland" (etc). I just feel like he's going to test FA and look for a big payday.

That's exactly what he did two years ago, and no one offered him anything significant. That's why he's been getting about $3 million a year over the last two years.

I think he's earned himself a pay raise, but if he thinks he's going to get a big contract, I think he's going to be disappointed.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyanFuller003 wrote:
EhJae wrote:
IDOG_det wrote:
Weird question here, but does anyone follow Chris Houston on Instagram? Because I was told apparently he made some comments that indicate he won't be back. Like, "Chances are I won't be back in the D" in response to someone asking him to "post something when he's back in the D" and stuff like that, maybe sonething about numbers not lining up and how it's a business. I figured maybe someone already follows him or feels like following him and looking for these comments (because I sure as hell don't).

I don't have an Instagram but I follow him on twitter and throughout the season he would retweet tweets of "pay the man" or "#HoustonIsland" (etc). I just feel like he's going to test FA and look for a big payday.

That's exactly what he did two years ago, and no one offered him anything significant. That's why he's been getting about $3 million a year over the last two years.

I think he's earned himself a pay raise, but if he thinks he's going to get a big contract, I think he's going to be disappointed.


I think that's true. Especially when teams look at the success rate of giving CB's top money.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Houston leaves then we have to hope for Milliner to fall to 5, right? I've seen arguments in other threads and probably somewhere in this one about Green, Bentley and Greenwood, but we can't honestly go into the season thinking those 3 are gonna be the answer in the back half. IIRC most of the "experts" said that both Green and Greenwood look like safeties. Although Green did show some flashes at CB last season.

Now the big question I have...

Jake Long? He didn't get the FT in Miami, so he will be able to test the market. Believe me I know he will be expensive, bookend LT's usually are. I also know that we are only 5/6 million under the cap right now. If you restructure/extend Stafford you open even more cash. I saw this morning that Flacco's new deal pays 30 million dollars this season (potentially), but he will only be 6.5 million against the cap this season.

I don't think Long will get 100 million, but does anyone think that Mayhew and Co. will look his way?

That means we don't get Bush or Levitre, but it does mean we don't go tackle at 5 (Joekel, Fisher, L. Johnson). Instead we do go defense. We can grab an OL and RB later on in the draft.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cowboys released S Gerald Sensabaugh.
It's the latest ramification of Dallas' failure to reduce Tony Romo's $16.8 million cap number. Sensabaugh struggled in 2012, but the move creates another hole for a defense currently projected to have a boatload of them. The move also frees up only $1.4 million in cap space, though it does provide $3 million in cash savings. Going on 30, Sensabaugh may be limited to one-year offers in free agency.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/308635838718308352

What about taking a chance on Sensabaugh?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyguy1609 wrote:
Cowboys released S Gerald Sensabaugh.
It's the latest ramification of Dallas' failure to reduce Tony Romo's $16.8 million cap number. Sensabaugh struggled in 2012, but the move creates another hole for a defense currently projected to have a boatload of them. The move also frees up only $1.4 million in cap space, though it does provide $3 million in cash savings. Going on 30, Sensabaugh may be limited to one-year offers in free agency.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/308635838718308352

What about taking a chance on Sensabaugh?


I would. Good all around S who had a down year.
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superjoint wrote:
If Houston leaves then we have to hope for Milliner to fall to 5, right? I've seen arguments in other threads and probably somewhere in this one about Green, Bentley and Greenwood, but we can't honestly go into the season thinking those 3 are gonna be the answer in the back half. IIRC most of the "experts" said that both Green and Greenwood look like safeties. Although Green did show some flashes at CB last season.

Now the big question I have...

Jake Long? He didn't get the FT in Miami, so he will be able to test the market. Believe me I know he will be expensive, bookend LT's usually are. I also know that we are only 5/6 million under the cap right now. If you restructure/extend Stafford you open even more cash. I saw this morning that Flacco's new deal pays 30 million dollars this season (potentially), but he will only be 6.5 million against the cap this season.

I don't think Long will get 100 million, but does anyone think that Mayhew and Co. will look his way?

That means we don't get Bush or Levitre, but it does mean we don't go tackle at 5 (Joekel, Fisher, L. Johnson). Instead we do go defense. We can grab an OL and RB later on in the draft.


Good question. I'm really not sure, but I strongly doubt it. Longs play has regressed a bit but he's still a strong player.

Long will get huge money. It would probably be more likely the Lions would go after a mid tier free agent corner and draft oline if they're looking to improve both areas.

LT is a big money position in free agency and with Joeckel, Fisher and Johnson in this draft they could acquire a top prospect for a fraction of the cost.

From a purely $$$$ standpoint it would make more sense to sign players at lower $$$$ positions and draft the players that play big money positions.

As an example if the Lions could afford Long that would be it. They would still have needs at RB, CB, S, DE, WR, OG.

If they spend wisely they could sign Bush, Grimes and Chris Clemons if he hits the market. They might even be able to get an adequate OG. Of course this is dependant on Stafford's extension and a few more restructures.

If Backus retires it frees up 2.25 million and the number five pick is going to have a cap hit of approximately 3 million so the net cost to the Lions would be 750k for the LT of the future.

This of course is just an example of what they could do instead of going after an extremely high priced free agent LT.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if this has been discussed yet but what about William Hayes as a potential de replacement. I don't know a lot about him but his stats looked solid in a limited role with the rams.

http://m.nfl.com/players/HAY474225/william-hayes/
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tippitover wrote:
I don't know if this has been discussed yet but what about William Hayes as a potential de replacement. I don't know a lot about him but his stats looked solid in a limited role with the rams.

http://m.nfl.com/players/HAY474225/william-hayes/


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JSMcTilty wrote:
tippitover wrote:
I don't know if this has been discussed yet but what about William Hayes as a potential de replacement. I don't know a lot about him but his stats looked solid in a limited role with the rams.

http://m.nfl.com/players/HAY474225/william-hayes/


Yes please.



At a fraction of the price of cliff "Mario Williams" avril.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tippitover wrote:
JSMcTilty wrote:
tippitover wrote:
I don't know if this has been discussed yet but what about William Hayes as a potential de replacement. I don't know a lot about him but his stats looked solid in a limited role with the rams.

http://m.nfl.com/players/HAY474225/william-hayes/


Yes please.



At a fraction of the price of cliff "Mario Williams" avril.

Only thing is that he wasn't too successful in Tennessee, so who knows if his 7-sack season was a complete aberration.
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Blake Clingan got lost in the shuffle of the NFL lockout after his senior season at Central Florida, but the big-footed punter made the most of his tryout with the Detroit Lions today

The Lions signed Clingan after a workout for specialists at their Allen Park practice facility.

Clingan hasnít punted since 2010, when he averaged 41.8 yards per punt at UCF. He was one of about a half-dozen punters who took part in the workout, which also included kickers and long snappers.

The Lions tied for 30th in the NFL in net punting average last year, and special teams have been a sore spot for most of the past two seasons.

They used six different punters over the last two years, including kicker Jason Hanson as a fill in. Nick Harris, who finished last season with the team, is an unrestricted free agent and not expected back.

Hanson still hasnít decided whether heíll return for a 22nd NFL season, and long snapper Don Muhlbach, a Pro Bowler last year, is a 31-year-old free agent.

Lions coach Jim Schwartz said last month he wasnít opposed to using a draft pick on a punter "if he's good." The Lions met with several candidates at the NFL combine, including Ball Stateís Scott Kovanda (Novi Detroit Catholic Central), Arizona Stateís Josh Hubner and LSUís Brad Wing.


http://www.freep.com/article/20130305/SPORTS01/130305078/detroit-lions-central-florida-ucf-football-blake-clingan?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports

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