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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:28 pm    Post subject: DS's End of Season Mock 5.0 Reply with quote

Free Agents
Sheldon Brown CB RETIRES
Josh Cribbs WR not resigned
Mohamed Massaquoi WR not resigned
Phil Dawson K resigned
Reggie Hodges P not resigned
Brandon Jackson RB resigned
Kaluka Maiava LB not resigned
Scott Fujita LB RETIRES
Alex Smith TE not resigned
Ben Watson TE not resigned
Rey Ventrone S not resigned
Jaqua Parker DE RETIRES
Hall Davis DE resigned

Restricted Free Agents
Thad Lewis QB resigned
Jordan Norwood WR not resigned
Chris Ogbonnaya RB resigned
Craig Robertson LB resigned
Emmanuel Stephens DE resigned
Christian Young LS resigned
Adrian Moten MLB not resigned
Prince Miller CB not resigned
Auston English DE not resigned
Eddie Williams FB not resigned

Free Agents
Geoff Schwartz #76 T/G Minnesota Vikings
Height: 6-6 Weight: 340 Age: 26
Born: 7/11/1986 Los Angeles , CA
College: Oregon
Experience: 4th season
DS's Comments:The 6th/5th man on the vikings OL Rooster. Wants a pay day and a chance to start. IMO Guard play is the weakest spot on the OL.
Likes the idea of a power run game O that Cleveland is setting up.

Matt Slauson #68 G New York Jets
Height: 6-5 Weight: 315 Age: 26
Born: 2/18/1986 Sweet Home , OR
College: Nebraska
Experience: 4th season
DS's Comments: The 6th/5th man on the vikings OL Rooster. Wants a pay day and a chance to start, that and New York is a dumpster fire. IMO Guard play is the weakest spot on the OL. Likes the idea of a power run game O that Cleveland is setting up.

Derek Cox #21 CB Jacksonville Jaguars
Height: 6-1 Weight: 195 Age: 26
Born: 9/22/1986 Winterville , NC
College: William & Mary
Experience: 4th season
DS's Comments: Big Corner looking for a bi pay and to get away from the dumpster fire that is Jacksonville as the impending Tebow circus is headed to town. That and likes the idea of forming a tandem with Joe Haden being cornerstones on the back half.

Jared Cook #89 TE Tennessee Titans
Height: 6-5 Weight: 248 Age: 25
Born: 4/7/1987 Birmingham , AL
College: South Carolina
Experience: 4th season
DS's Comments: Young TE that wants a pay day and Uncle Jimmy has the brinks trucks ready. Brandon Weedens new favorite target.

DRAFT

1. Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB 6-3, 220, West Virginia
2. Jaguars: *Damontre Moore DE, 6-4, 250, Texas A&M
3. Raiders: Star Lotulelei, DT 6-3, 320, Utah
4. Eagles: Luke Joeckel, OT 6-6, 310, Texas A&M
5. Lions: Manti Te'o, ILB 6-2, 255, Notre Dame
6. Browns: TRADE Browns Get #7th over all and a 2nd rounder
Tyler Wilson QB 6-2, 218, Arkansas
7. Cardinals: TRADE Cardinals Move up for Tyler Wilson
*Bjoern Werner, DE 6-4, 256, Florida State

1 Bjoern Werner*, DE, Florida State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 255.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
DS's Comments: Browns Immediately upgrade there pass rush off the jump. Werner has a high motor and his run pass recognition is high as well as his ability to get around the corner.

2 Xavier Rhodes*, CB/FS, Florida State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44.
DS's Comments: The Browns pick a CB to play FS and cover the deep middle. With his range and speed the Browns can now play a lot single high safety looks and not get burnt.

3 Ryan Otten, TE, San Jose State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 253.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
DS's Comments: The newGM got rid of Watson and Smith as if it were elementary my dear Browns fan. Cook Otton and Camerion are the new depth chart at TE.

4 A.J. Klein, ILB, Iowa State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 244.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
DS's Comments: Rangy physical do it all LB that doesn't excell at anyone thing but just does everything well. High football IQ green sticker type of guy.

5 Conner Vernon, WR, Duke
Height: 6-2. Weight: 195.
Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
DS's Comments: All time leader for ACC in receptions is now a security blanket type of receiver for Weeden.

6 Dan Paul, FB, Boise State
Height: 6-0 Weight: 265
Projected 40 Time: : 4.65
DS's Comments: A Full Back that makes Trent Richardson look small. Doug Martin's favorite guy to run behind is now Richardson favorite guy to run behind, and he seeks and destroys LB's with glee.

Quinn Sharp, P/K, Oklahoma State
Height: 6-1. Weight: 205.
DS's Comments: New punter and Dawson Insurance.

DEPTH CHART@CAMP
QB Weeden Lewis Johnson
RB Richardson Hardesty Jackson Ogbonnaya
FB Paul Marecic Smelly
TE Cook Otton Camerion
WR Gordon Little Benjamin Vernon Cooper
OT Thomas M.Schwartz Miller
OG G.Schwartz Slauson Greco Lauvao +Pinkston
C Mack Gerhart

DE Werner Sheard Rucker Stephens
DT Taylor Rubin Winn Highes Kitchen
OLB Johnson +Gocong Robinson Carder Fort
MLB Jackson Klein
CB Haden Cox Wade Bademosi Skrine
S Ward Rhodes Gipson Hagg Young

P Sharp
K Dawson
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like it a lot. Coaching predictions?
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5.0 really? Its more like 50.0

Anyway I really like A.J. Klein and his teammate Jake Knott but Klein is more of a lumbering big body and a run stopping thumper. He is a 2 down player in the NFL at best. We need someone who can cover a TE and back out of the backfield. I would look more at Sio Moore or DeVonte Holloman who are both very good cover guys. Sio Moore also makes a living in the backfield.

I also really like Xavier Rhodes because his body style makes me think of Merton Hanks every time I see him, however, I have seen him look like a fool trying to tackle. That is not a good quality to have for a saftey. I think he is best off at corner.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrobinson14 wrote:
Like it a lot. Coaching predictions?


Heckert stays and the media is only right about Shurmur being gone.
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I want nothing to do with Cook.

Hate Werner. Especially at 7.

If we got a 2nd for that trade, we raped them. And I see no reason for them to make that trade.

I could see the top of the draft going that way for sure

The rest of it I like.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
I want nothing to do with Cook.

Hate Werner. Especially at 7.


If we got a 2nd for that trade, we raped them. And I see no reason for them to make that trade.

I could see the top of the draft going that way for sure

The rest of it I like.


Hey is BPA in my book at 7. As far as Cook why not?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
bulldog wrote:
I want nothing to do with Cook.

Hate Werner. Especially at 7.


If we got a 2nd for that trade, we raped them. And I see no reason for them to make that trade.

I could see the top of the draft going that way for sure

The rest of it I like.


Hey is BPA in my book at 7. As far as Cook why not?



cook is all sizzle and no steak
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meaning what exactly?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
meaning what exactly?


meaning yea his athletic ability makes you look all ohh and ahh but very little production to go with that athletic ability. Martellus Bennett is the better signing of we are going to sign a TE in FA
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Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
meaning what exactly?


meaning yea his athletic ability makes you look all ohh and ahh but very little production to go with that athletic ability. Martellus Bennett is the better signing of we are going to sign a TE in FA


Meaning he has the ability but a coach hasn't been able to get him focused and productive. So it is a calculated risk based on the coach.
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DawgSoldier wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
meaning what exactly?


meaning yea his athletic ability makes you look all ohh and ahh but very little production to go with that athletic ability. Martellus Bennett is the better signing of we are going to sign a TE in FA


Meaning he has the ability but a coach hasn't been able to get him focused and productive. So it is a calculated risk based on the coach.



I think it is more on the player than it is the coach
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Original title.

Slauson is overkill. Makes no sense to sign two guards with Pinkston returning.

That trade is ridiculous. Ralph Wilson is old, but not senile. Well not completely, anyway.

Werner is a LDE. I think he's a terrible pick for the Browns.

Rhodes is OK, but not if you want him at FS. Rather take a FS to play FS.

The rest of the picks are meh to blah. Slow, plodding, unexciting and boring. Redundancy intended.
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ditchdigger wrote:
Original title.

1 Slauson is overkill. Makes no sense to sign two guards with Pinkston returning.

2 That trade is ridiculous. Ralph Wilson is old, but not senile. Well not completely, anyway.

3 Werner is a LDE. I think he's a terrible pick for the Browns.

4 Rhodes is OK, but not if you want him at FS. Rather take a FS to play FS.

5 The rest of the picks are meh to blah. Slow, plodding, unexciting and boring. Redundancy intended.


1 Think of Slausen as Pinkston Insurence and a bonus Cousins is expunged from the roster. I wasn't that big of a fan of Pinkston in the 1st place and think Greco is an upgrade. Adding more talent to the OL isn't a bad thing to do IMO.

2 Switched it to the Cards they are desperate for a QB. I originally read the draft order wrong. Swapped the Bills and Cards.

3 Werner is a 43 DE with high upside, good pass rush moves and work ethic.

4 I think Rhodes could be elite as a FS and be an answer to tall athletic TE's as the Browns would posses a tall athletic FS.

5 The rest are depth with hopes of finding the next Winn in there midst.
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DawgSoldier wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
Original title.

1 Slauson is overkill. Makes no sense to sign two guards with Pinkston returning.

2 That trade is ridiculous. Ralph Wilson is old, but not senile. Well not completely, anyway.

3 Werner is a LDE. I think he's a terrible pick for the Browns.

4 Rhodes is OK, but not if you want him at FS. Rather take a FS to play FS.

5 The rest of the picks are meh to blah. Slow, plodding, unexciting and boring. Redundancy intended.


1 Think of Slausen as Pinkston Insurence and a bonus Cousins is expunged from the roster. I wasn't that big of a fan of Pinkston in the 1st place and think Greco is an upgrade. Adding more talent to the OL isn't a bad thing to do IMO.

2 Switched it to the Cards they are desperate for a QB. I originally read the draft order wrong. Swapped the Bills and Cards.

3 Werner is a 43 DE with high upside, good pass rush moves and work ethic.

4 I think Rhodes could be elite as a FS and be an answer to tall athletic TE's as the Browns would posses a tall athletic FS.

5 The rest are depth with hopes of finding the next Winn in there midst.


Your feelings on Pinkston don't matter. He's a viable starter at LG. He needs no insurance, since his medical issue has been taken care of and he was cleared to resume training a month ago.

Maybe the Cards new GM will be deserate enough to pull the trigger on the trade. Or maybe he trades down and gets Barkley or any of the other unsavory QB prospects. Kinda ridiculous to mock it at this point. Maybe once rumors start flying, but in December I will contend it's ridiculousness until the cows come home.

Werner is a LDE. We have an LDE who rarely misses a snap. Bad pick is bad. Why not take a LT or DT there? Oh, because that would be dumb. Like taking a LDE. Taking a player in the top 10 and asking him to play a position he's never played in his life is not a recipe for success.

Elite Free Safeties played Free Safety in college. Rhodes might be able to play the position, but he'd be better served playing the position he's always played. Never been a fan of switching positions of high draft picks. Besides, there is hardly any chance we'll be able to pick him so the argument is moot.

There is no Winn in that group of meh to blah players. None of those guys are getting 2nd round grades from anyone, then slipping. None of them posess the first step Winn has. Otten isn't even a top 100 player, but you have him taken in the top 70. Klein isn't a top 200 player. Vernon is OK, but as exciting of a pick as JuJuan Dawson was in 2000. The FB and Punter are solid picks.
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ditchdigger wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
Original title.

1 Slauson is overkill. Makes no sense to sign two guards with Pinkston returning.

2 That trade is ridiculous. Ralph Wilson is old, but not senile. Well not completely, anyway.

3 Werner is a LDE. I think he's a terrible pick for the Browns.

4 Rhodes is OK, but not if you want him at FS. Rather take a FS to play FS.

5 The rest of the picks are meh to blah. Slow, plodding, unexciting and boring. Redundancy intended.


1 Think of Slausen as Pinkston Insurence and a bonus Cousins is expunged from the roster. I wasn't that big of a fan of Pinkston in the 1st place and think Greco is an upgrade. Adding more talent to the OL isn't a bad thing to do IMO.

2 Switched it to the Cards they are desperate for a QB. I originally read the draft order wrong. Swapped the Bills and Cards.

3 Werner is a 43 DE with high upside, good pass rush moves and work ethic.

4 I think Rhodes could be elite as a FS and be an answer to tall athletic TE's as the Browns would posses a tall athletic FS.

5 The rest are depth with hopes of finding the next Winn in there midst.


Your feelings on Pinkston don't matter. He's a viable starter at LG. He needs no insurance, since his medical issue has been taken care of and he was cleared to resume training a month ago.

Maybe the Cards new GM will be deserate enough to pull the trigger on the trade. Or maybe he trades down and gets Barkley or any of the other unsavory QB prospects. Kinda ridiculous to mock it at this point. Maybe once rumors start flying, but in December I will contend it's ridiculousness until the cows come home.

Werner is a LDE. We have an LDE who rarely misses a snap. Bad pick is bad. Why not take a LT or DT there? Oh, because that would be dumb. Like taking a LDE. Taking a player in the top 10 and asking him to play a position he's never played in his life is not a recipe for success.

Elite Free Safeties played Free Safety in college. Rhodes might be able to play the position, but he'd be better served playing the position he's always played. Never been a fan of switching positions of high draft picks. Besides, there is hardly any chance we'll be able to pick him so the argument is moot.

There is no Winn in that group of meh to blah players. None of those guys are getting 2nd round grades from anyone, then slipping. None of them posess the first step Winn has. Otten isn't even a top 100 player, but you have him taken in the top 70. Klein isn't a top 200 player. Vernon is OK, but as exciting of a pick as JuJuan Dawson was in 2000. The FB and Punter are solid picks.


I am pretty sure multiple sources on the web disagree with you besides me. He is a 43 DE that can play on ether side. The TE Otton is pretty dynamic and under rated as is Klien and Vernon. They come from non traditional non powerhouses like winn
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