#2 Pick

dswinton · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:28 am Post subject:

Stats says Jarvis Jones is best pass rusher in the draft. 14.5 sacks 7 forced fumbles and he missed 2 games this season. 28 sacks in the last two years in the tough SEC you tell me who is the best pass rusher, then show me there stats and conference. (ESPN) Numbers Never Lie.

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Stats and the conference are the end all, be all. That's why the best players in the NFL are from the SEC.
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Jags · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:05 am Post subject:

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Stats are an indicator. But you've got to look at the whole picture. Things like player technique, how often they're asked to rush, speed, quickness, lateral movement, and etc. are much more important than simply looking at stats. There's bad players on every team, and just because a player is able to take advantage of those bad players to record stats, it doesn't mean they'll be able to shine against quality competition.

One of the best examples I can think of is Mike Hart. He was so much bigger than everyone in high school (I played against him once) and college, that his size just gave him a huge advantage. When he finally made it to the NFL though, his strength was no longer so much better than the competition, and his lack of speed and other "break-tackle" moves got exposed really quickly.
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And the Clowney trade isn't going to work. The return on the #2 pick in this weak draft is way lower than what we're going to have to give up to get Clowney. And even then, I doubt any team with the #1 pick is going to just pass on taking him. It isn't going to be a situation where the Rams have a young player under an $80 million contract that they are trying to develop. Even if a team has a great player at DE, or even two, they can still use Clowney in the same way the Giants use their DEs. It would take a ton to pry him away from whoever has the #1 pick if he's still rated that high. Probably more than what the Redskins gave up.
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I don't think Clowney goes first overall. Bridgewater and maybe Fales would go over him just because of the QB demand.
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