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JaguarCrazy2832


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. V wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
iPwn wrote:
Mr. V wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
If Jarvis was 100% healthy, no degenerative issue at all, would he be the consensus pick at #2?


No
Who would be then?


I too am curious


There wouldn't be a consensus.


This, just like there isn't a consensus currently.


Okay so who are your Top-3 with and without JJ's injury?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
Mr. V wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
iPwn wrote:
Mr. V wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
If Jarvis was 100% healthy, no degenerative issue at all, would he be the consensus pick at #2?


No
Who would be then?


I too am curious


There wouldn't be a consensus.


This, just like there isn't a consensus currently.


Okay so who are your Top-3 with and without JJ's injury?


I'd say Star / Dion / Joeckel, not in that order.

And before anyone knocks me for talking about a tackle; having two tackles who basically eliminate opponents pass rushers is worth a top 5 selection.

As for Dion - I think a creative DC can do more with him than JJ.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
Mr. V wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
iPwn wrote:
Mr. V wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
If Jarvis was 100% healthy, no degenerative issue at all, would he be the consensus pick at #2?


No
Who would be then?


I too am curious


There wouldn't be a consensus.


This, just like there isn't a consensus currently.


Okay so who are your Top-3 with and without JJ's injury?


Geno, Star, Werner for both
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DL prospects are so deep this draft, I cant help but feel we can still get a really good one at 33
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why we need to take Geno if available and hope either Hunt or Ansah is there at 33. Its like we have 2 first rd picks. There's always someone who falls.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
The DL prospects are so deep this draft, I cant help but feel we can still get a really good one at 33


I think it still makes sense to go DL at #2.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
The DL prospects are so deep this draft, I cant help but feel we can still get a really good one at 33


I think it still makes sense to go DL at #2.


Pass rushers are so stacked in this draft, it'd be a reach to take anyone else at two, maybe thirty-three as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
Mr. V wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
iPwn wrote:
Mr. V wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
If Jarvis was 100% healthy, no degenerative issue at all, would he be the consensus pick at #2?


No
Who would be then?


I too am curious


There wouldn't be a consensus.


This, just like there isn't a consensus currently.


Okay so who are your Top-3 with and without JJ's injury?


I'd say Star / Dion / Joeckel, not in that order.

And before anyone knocks me for talking about a tackle; having two tackles who basically eliminate opponents pass rushers is worth a top 5 selection.

As for Dion - I think a creative DC can do more with him than JJ.


I just watched a highlight film of Dion Jordan and I have to say guy has no moves. He runs by a lot of left tackles thats about it. I did see in one of the plays he did a reverse swim move which worked for him he was against a right tackle on the play.

We have plenty of Dion Jordans on the Jaguar roster we need a real pass rusher not another hybrid.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
The DL prospects are so deep this draft, I cant help but feel we can still get a really good one at 33


I think it still makes sense to go DL at #2.


Pass rushers are so stacked in this draft, it'd be a reach to take anyone else at two, maybe thirty-three as well.


I'm in the crowd that thinks half the first round could very well be DL/Pass Rushers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
The DL prospects are so deep this draft, I cant help but feel we can still get a really good one at 33


I think it still makes sense to go DL at #2.


Pass rushers are so stacked in this draft, it'd be a reach to take anyone else at two, maybe thirty-three as well.


I'm in the crowd that thinks half the first round could very well be DL/Pass Rushers.


its a big crowd, wouldnt surprise me either
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you guys are insane if you think a healthy jarvis jones doesn't go top 2.

He is by FAR the best player in the draft.
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FREDDY T wrote:
you guys are insane if you think a healthy jarvis jones doesn't go top 2.

He is by FAR the best player in the draft.


It is close though because you would assume at least 1 QB goes Top-2 so that just leaves 1 spot
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
The DL prospects are so deep this draft, I cant help but feel we can still get a really good one at 33


I think it still makes sense to go DL at #2.


Agreed. And honestly, it wouldn't be the worst thing if we doubled up there.


We need top-end help at a lot of other spots, but if that's where the value lies...grab us a real good DT and an impact DE. I wouldn't be too upset.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tugboat wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
The DL prospects are so deep this draft, I cant help but feel we can still get a really good one at 33


I think it still makes sense to go DL at #2.


Agreed. And honestly, it wouldn't be the worst thing if we doubled up there.


We need top-end help at a lot of other spots, but if that's where the value lies...grab us a real good DT and an impact DE. I wouldn't be too upset.


I'm hoping we double up either way.

If we go Geno, I want an OL in round 2 so they will help make each other better

Same goes for if we take Star, Jordan, Moore, Werner, I want another DL in round 2
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would prefer that we get the two best players, regardless of position.
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