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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd rather get Xavier Rhodes at #33 if he's there.


Is he going to be a CB at the next level for sure?


I think he is. He's exactly the type of CB that Seattle uses too.


He is, but would you rather take Xavier at 33 or Sanders Cummings in the mid-late rounds? [Simon, Slay, are others to use in this case]
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:
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I'd rather get Xavier Rhodes at #33 if he's there.


Is he going to be a CB at the next level for sure?


I think he is. He's exactly the type of CB that Seattle uses too.


He is, but would you rather take Xavier at 33 or Sanders Cummings in the mid-late rounds? [Simon, Slay, are others to use in this case]


I'm pretty high on Xavier :3
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What about Jonathan Cooper to help the interior line or Barrett Jones?


Love Cooper but, I doubt he makes it to round 2.

Tharold Simon from LSU?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Dion Jordan? Going for a freak athlete in the first. Whether we trade back and take him or take a huge leap like the Hawks with B. Irvin.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about Dion Jordan? Going for a freak athlete in the first. Whether we trade back and take him or take a huge leap like the Hawks with B. Irvin.

Taking Dion Jordan at 2 would be lulzy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Xavier but he's gonna be like Stephone Gilmore was last year steady rising up the board but I want him or Eddie Lacy or OL.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would yall mind Collin Klein in 3rd RD because Gus seems to like those running QBs. Collin Klein is like a Kaepernick to me. Both can do read option and both dont have textbook throwing motion but the ball gets there though. Russell Wilson was taking in round three and is now a sure starter.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would yall mind Collin Klein in 3rd RD because Gus seems to like those running QBs. Collin Klein is like a Kaepernick to me. Both can do read option and both dont have textbook throwing motion but the ball gets there though. Russell Wilson was taking in round three and is now a sure starter.


Collin Klein looks like freshman Tim Tebow. NO to him. No to him in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, undrafted, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would yall mind Collin Klein in 3rd RD because Gus seems to like those running QBs. Collin Klein is like a Kaepernick to me. Both can do read option and both dont have textbook throwing motion but the ball gets there though. Russell Wilson was taking in round three and is now a sure starter.

Laughing 3rd round? Klein probably won't be drafted. His only similarity to Kaep is size.
As an UDFA practice squad type player, I don't care if we bring him in. Nothing more.
He would contribute absolutely nothing to our QB situation. Biggest project in the draft.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about Dion Jordan? Going for a freak athlete in the first. Whether we trade back and take him or take a huge leap like the Hawks with B. Irvin.

Taking Dion Jordan at 2 would be lulzy.


I wouldn't be against it.

Because of all the apparent pass-rusher talent, it's a good draft to trade back when quarterbacks begin to rise - but if he's the guy, he's the guy no matter where he's taken.
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How about Dion Jordan? Going for a freak athlete in the first. Whether we trade back and take him or take a huge leap like the Hawks with B. Irvin.

Taking Dion Jordan at 2 would be lulzy.


I wouldn't be against it.

Because of all the apparent pass-rusher talent, it's a good draft to trade back when quarterbacks begin to rise - but if he's the guy, he's the guy no matter where he's taken.

Jordan is the most overrated prospect in the draft. I wouldn't touch him to the second.
(no offense to Sabo, I know he loves Jordan)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been thinking about it a lot... and I think I would prefer that we come away with Jarvis Jones at 2. I think Geno is going #1, so I'm not considering him for this.


Now before I get crucified for all I said about risk management with picking him, that all still applies. What I mean by this is if he goes at 2, I am going to trust that he is cleared to be able to play for a long time without it affecting him. In that case, I think he's the best prospect in the draft.

Shame that I don't think he's going to clear in that way, and won't be our pick.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
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How about Dion Jordan? Going for a freak athlete in the first. Whether we trade back and take him or take a huge leap like the Hawks with B. Irvin.

Taking Dion Jordan at 2 would be lulzy.


I wouldn't be against it.

Because of all the apparent pass-rusher talent, it's a good draft to trade back when quarterbacks begin to rise - but if he's the guy, he's the guy no matter where he's taken.

Jordan is the most overrated prospect in the draft. I wouldn't touch him to the second.
(no offense to Sabo, I know he loves Jordan)


I think forcing him to be something he isn't will set him up for failure. But if he is moved around and unleashed on the quarterback, he can be the same caliber of player Aldon Smith has become.

Dion isn't a player who fits into a traditional role, but he can be that playmaker who is the focus of the opponent's gameplan that this defense is missing.
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I've been thinking about it a lot... and I think I would prefer that we come away with Jarvis Jones at 2. I think Geno is going #1, so I'm not considering him for this.


Now before I get crucified for all I said about risk management with picking him, that all still applies. What I mean by this is if he goes at 2, I am going to trust that he is cleared to be able to play for a long time without it affecting him. In that case, I think he's the best prospect in the draft.

Shame that I don't think he's going to clear in that way, and won't be our pick.


Agreed. If he doesn't free-fall due to his condition, he should be a top five pick and impact player from the get-go. Unfortunately for his career, the NFL is incredibly stringent when it comes to investing millions in such a risky player, injury-wise.

He can definitely go the way of Bowers of two years ago.
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iPwn wrote:
I've been thinking about it a lot... and I think I would prefer that we come away with Jarvis Jones at 2. I think Geno is going #1, so I'm not considering him for this.


Now before I get crucified for all I said about risk management with picking him, that all still applies. What I mean by this is if he goes at 2, I am going to trust that he is cleared to be able to play for a long time without it affecting him. In that case, I think he's the best prospect in the draft.

Shame that I don't think he's going to clear in that way, and won't be our pick.


Same argument I was making a month or two ago doe.

Also, still not sold on Geno going #1, but I'm not really on the Geno at #2 bandwagon. I would rather take a pass rusher.
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