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Its A Sabotage
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| iPwn wrote: | | Jaguarfan wrote: | | iPwn wrote: | | mijags wrote: | | id prefer to abstain from drafting a QB this year and get johnny manziel next year. dude will be a superstar in the NFL |
He can't come out until 2015. |
He can come out next year, but I doubt he does. |
Isn't he a true freshman? |
Redshirted.
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Adrenaline_Flux
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| iPwn wrote: | | Jaguarfan wrote: | | iPwn wrote: | | mijags wrote: | | id prefer to abstain from drafting a QB this year and get johnny manziel next year. dude will be a superstar in the NFL |
He can't come out until 2015. |
He can come out next year, but I doubt he does. |
Isn't he a true freshman? |
Redshirt.
But still. Like I have said before, it is in his best interest to say through his senior year.
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iPwn
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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My bad then. 
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Tugboat
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| mijags wrote: | | id prefer to abstain from drafting a QB this year and get johnny manziel next year. dude will be a superstar in the NFL |
Or we could just 'settle' for Teddy Bridgewater next year.  I'd be content with that.  |
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Adrenaline_Flux
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Or we could just wait a few years and draft Luke Del Rio
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Tugboat
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| Outstanding plan. |
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dswinton
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| I was comparing Star to Alualu. |
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Adrenaline_Flux
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| dswinton wrote: | | I was comparing Star to Alualu. |
The point was that that's a bad comparison
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The more i think about it, the more i manage to convince myself that Arizona at #7 might be a viable trade back opportunity. If not for Geno/Wilson, more likely for Joeckel. Especially with the news of Lewan not coming out.
Wouldn't expect a huge return on it necessarily, but i have to think that adds some pressure to grab that top-end LT in Joeckel before someone else does (Eagles, Raiders, Lions, etc.).
And imo #7 would be a good spot to sit if we can pick up some extra lil somethin' somethin' on the side (extra picks). Seems like a good chance one of the 'top guys' falls into our laps there if that were to happen.
But then again, i could just be deluding myself with wishful thinking.  |
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Adrenaline_Flux
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:36 am Post subject: |
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I think it's more likely that someone trades up to #6 to jump Arizona for Joeckel than it is that Arizona trades up to #2 for Joeckel.
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I guess it depends how serious other teams feel a team like Philly is about taking Joeckel. If he's a legit candidate for Philly at #4, you'd have to leapfrog them which puts you squarely in the market of Jacksonville and Oakland...or you risk getting left out in the cold. For a team a bit later where a guy like Fisher or even Lane Johnson might be reasonable value, i'm not sure it's such an issue. But for a team like Arizona sitting at #7...Kinda no man's land as far as finding a top end OT.
But it does hinge a lot on thinking Philly could opt to go with Joeckel. Otherwise i think you're right...jumping up to #6 just ahead of Arizona does make more sense. |
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Its A Sabotage
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| Tugboat wrote: | I guess it depends how serious other teams feel a team like Philly is about taking Joeckel. If he's a legit candidate for Philly at #4, you'd have to leapfrog them which puts you squarely in the market of Jacksonville and Oakland...or you risk getting left out in the cold. For a team a bit later where a guy like Fisher or even Lane Johnson might be reasonable value, i'm not sure it's such an issue. But for a team like Arizona sitting at #7...Kinda no man's land as far as finding a top end OT.
But it does hinge a lot on thinking Philly could opt to go with Joeckel. Otherwise i think you're right...jumping up to #6 just ahead of Arizona does make more sense. |
If they were afraid of Philadelphia, they'd take the lesser deal the Raiders may ask for due to them not having as many picks.
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| Its A Sabotage wrote: | | Tugboat wrote: | I guess it depends how serious other teams feel a team like Philly is about taking Joeckel. If he's a legit candidate for Philly at #4, you'd have to leapfrog them which puts you squarely in the market of Jacksonville and Oakland...or you risk getting left out in the cold. For a team a bit later where a guy like Fisher or even Lane Johnson might be reasonable value, i'm not sure it's such an issue. But for a team like Arizona sitting at #7...Kinda no man's land as far as finding a top end OT.
But it does hinge a lot on thinking Philly could opt to go with Joeckel. Otherwise i think you're right...jumping up to #6 just ahead of Arizona does make more sense. |
If they were afraid of Philadelphia, they'd take the lesser deal the Raiders may ask for due to them not having as many picks. |
It would most likely cost a 1st and a 2nd to jump that high, especially if caldwell feels there is not a guy he likes in that spot.
Past history suggests that caldwell does not like to trade down. However, that was under dimitroff. |
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Every team is looking to trade down because of the uncertainty at the top of the draft. Jags won't find a partner, as Reggie McKenzie will be opened to doing business the selection later. The choice to me is BPA (Joeckel) or a pass rusher.
I'd personally take Barkevious Mingo, but Caldwell will want a safe pick to start his regime.
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