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What would you like Oakland to do at QB next season?
Start Palmer, develop Pryor
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Start Pryor, Carson mentor
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Start Palmer, cut Pryor, get a new QBOTF
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Start Pryor, draft QBOTF
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This was his try out for this team he made his case for 2nd string with time to develop him not bad for a 3rd round pick. Will say did way better in redone hopefully we play him more next season
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91jmay wrote:
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You take this one decent game and bank on it. I'll bank on the NFL being the NFL and use a much larger sample of his past and say that a QB who throws balls like he's throwing oops to Kobe, if he can even accurately get it there, won't succeed. Name me A QB who's arm strength sucked and was inaccurate and succeeded? Good luck.


This is what I'm saying. Defensive backs will lick their chops week in and week out if Pryor is a 16 game starter. He may have only been picked off once, but it was one game. Those types of throws are the ones defenses dream about and we wouldn't get off with only one pick on a regular basis. Not only that, but SD had what, 2 days to prep for Pryor? If he were named starter, teams would probably be able to gameplan for a QB who will run wild but also has throws that look like punts.


and you guys dont think dbs lick their chops when they know they are facing cp? db's prolly send cp gift baskets every year. imo its hard to prep for tp's improvising. i dont think any defense fears cp or dmac anymore.


No, they don't. I can almost surely guarantee you, since you're a big stat guy, that Pryor would throw more INTs and have a far less completion percentage than Palmer and also score less.

Palmer threw his lowest interception total in 4 years in almost his most attempts EVER in his career. In fact, his INT to ATT ratio was the best ever in his entire career and all this w/o a running game or offensive line and you still [inappropriate/removed] and moan about him. You are truly a piece of work.



um he had 13 ints in 09 so wouldnt that make it his lowest in 3yrs but anyways

even though he didnt finish the season you're right he should get props cause usually when he goes over 565att like in 2010 and 2007 he gets 20 ints. so yes you are right he should get props and i should be happy that he ONLY threw 14 ints. silly me those are great qb #'s how could i have missed this glorious milestone in cps career.


This post made me laugh. Just the tone haha.

Maybe he meant 2010, 2011 and 2012. But I think of last 3 years like you do NCough.

Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Andrew Luck, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Matthew Stafford, Brandon Weeden, Andy Dalton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Jay Cutler and Matt Ryan all threw as many or more INTs. Considering how much more almost all of them have to work with, I'm alright with 14.


i think they all played all 16 games also iirc but hey i guess thats good company to be in. hip hip hooray hip hip hooray.


Maths is your friend Rolling Eyes

Brees threw a pick every 35 passes. You know, HOF candidate Drew Brees.

Palmer threw a pick every 40 passes.

Reigning Superbowl MVP Eli Manning? A pick every 35.

Phil Rivers? A pick every 35.

Keep on hating them. It makes you look ridiculous. Palmer's INT totals were very good this year.


wow so cp only can look good when other qbs like breese have down years oh wait brees only threw it 5 more times than cp but had 43 tds. oh ok now i see the light. eli threw the ball 30 times fewer than cp but had 1 more int than him and 4 more tds dam you guys are right. and phil cry me a river? really? lol im glad you guys think he is something special cause i sure dont
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um he had 13 ints in 09 so wouldnt that make it his lowest in 3yrs but anyways

even though he didnt finish the season you're right he should get props cause usually when he goes over 565att like in 2010 and 2007 he gets 20 ints. so yes you are right he should get props and i should be happy that he ONLY threw 14 ints. silly me those are great qb #'s how could i have missed this glorious milestone in cps career.


This post made me laugh. Just the tone haha.

Maybe he meant 2010, 2011 and 2012. But I think of last 3 years like you do NCough.

Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Andrew Luck, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Matthew Stafford, Brandon Weeden, Andy Dalton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Jay Cutler and Matt Ryan all threw as many or more INTs. Considering how much more almost all of them have to work with, I'm alright with 14.


i think they all played all 16 games also iirc but hey i guess thats good company to be in. hip hip hooray hip hip hooray.


You don't have to get all snippy bro. Sanchez, Cutler and Weeden didn't play all 16 off the top of my head. There are some legit QBs in there too. Even with real weapons. Brees' situation carrying the team wasn't all that different than Palmer's and he has a better OL, TE, WRs and a running game to lean on. What's his excuse?


not snippy dogg this is fun to me Laughing
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Can you hear that? That's the sound of NCough baaaacking up.

Beeep Beeep Beeeep.

I thought it was all about INTs?
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Palmer threw a pick every 40 passes.

Reigning Superbowl MVP Eli Manning? A pick every 35.


Shhhhh Eli is in his list of top 10 QBs of all time. Don't tell him this......


If i mention his career sub 60% rate I get the impression his head would explode?


is that the same eli manning with 2 sb wins and a career 17td-8int record in the post season?
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Can you hear that? That's the sound of NCough baaaacking up.

Beeep Beeep Beeeep.

I thought it was all about INTs?


then you dont know me like you think you do.
ask jtagg im all about sb wins, win/loss records and tds:ints ratios.

eli has 2 out of 3.
cp has 0 out of 3.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you hear that? That's the sound of NCough baaaacking up.

Beeep Beeep Beeeep.

I thought it was all about INTs?


It is when it supports his argument LOL then it turns to satire. More failing....

Not only that, the whole "He threw more TDs" is so obnoxious. Who's the MVP of a drive that goes 99 yards:

The QB who completed a 50 yard pass to a WR who ran to the 1 yard line and was tracked from behind

or

The RB who ran it in on the next play

It's the age old question. According to Dr Coughman's theory, the QB is worthless on that drive and means nothing b/c the RB, who just came off the exercise bike, has the "1" in his TD column.
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um he had 13 ints in 09 so wouldnt that make it his lowest in 3yrs but anyways

even though he didnt finish the season you're right he should get props cause usually when he goes over 565att like in 2010 and 2007 he gets 20 ints. so yes you are right he should get props and i should be happy that he ONLY threw 14 ints. silly me those are great qb #'s how could i have missed this glorious milestone in cps career.


This post made me laugh. Just the tone haha.

Maybe he meant 2010, 2011 and 2012. But I think of last 3 years like you do NCough.

Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Andrew Luck, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Matthew Stafford, Brandon Weeden, Andy Dalton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Jay Cutler and Matt Ryan all threw as many or more INTs. Considering how much more almost all of them have to work with, I'm alright with 14.


i think they all played all 16 games also iirc but hey i guess thats good company to be in. hip hip hooray hip hip hooray.


You don't have to get all snippy bro. Sanchez, Cutler and Weeden didn't play all 16 off the top of my head. There are some legit QBs in there too. Even with real weapons. Brees' situation carrying the team wasn't all that different than Palmer's and he has a better OL, TE, WRs and a running game to lean on. What's his excuse?


not snippy dogg this is fun to me Laughing


You didn't answer his question....
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If we have a new and competent OC and CP can be successful in the RZ because of it, is there a point to running Pryor wildcat plays?
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Palmer threw a pick every 40 passes.

Reigning Superbowl MVP Eli Manning? A pick every 35.


Shhhhh Eli is in his list of top 10 QBs of all time. Don't tell him this......


If i mention his career sub 60% rate I get the impression his head would explode?


Yes, I believe it will b/c it's something he's used against Carson time and time again. It won't matter for Eli though, nope.
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um he had 13 ints in 09 so wouldnt that make it his lowest in 3yrs but anyways

even though he didnt finish the season you're right he should get props cause usually when he goes over 565att like in 2010 and 2007 he gets 20 ints. so yes you are right he should get props and i should be happy that he ONLY threw 14 ints. silly me those are great qb #'s how could i have missed this glorious milestone in cps career.


My bad for the keystroke. If you actually rate players you've seen, I'll proofread my posts more. But since you want to bring that up, he did have 100 less attempts in 09 than he did this year so take what you want from it.

Now, as for calling it a milestone, that's taking it over the top b/c that's not what I'm saying and who ever said they were great? Oh, just you b/c you have nothing so you attempt to mock the information provided. I gave you your favorite substance, stats, to refute your stupid point you attempted to make and you got nothing so you turn to satire. Once again, proving you have absolutely nothing to base your claim off of. Thanks. If you don't think Pryor would throw 14 INTs in one season, that's your fault.... but you still make up excuses for Russell so I don't expect you to understand one bit.


back to using demeaning words i see lol. i just acknowledged your facts. sorry i wasnt as impressed with them as you were.


Call it like I see it. Shouldn't be so sensitive. Maybe you can show me those "deep lakes and dark woods" like you wanted to... you know... just to show me.
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um he had 13 ints in 09 so wouldnt that make it his lowest in 3yrs but anyways

even though he didnt finish the season you're right he should get props cause usually when he goes over 565att like in 2010 and 2007 he gets 20 ints. so yes you are right he should get props and i should be happy that he ONLY threw 14 ints. silly me those are great qb #'s how could i have missed this glorious milestone in cps career.


This post made me laugh. Just the tone haha.

Maybe he meant 2010, 2011 and 2012. But I think of last 3 years like you do NCough.

Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Andrew Luck, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Matthew Stafford, Brandon Weeden, Andy Dalton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Jay Cutler and Matt Ryan all threw as many or more INTs. Considering how much more almost all of them have to work with, I'm alright with 14.


i think they all played all 16 games also iirc but hey i guess thats good company to be in. hip hip hooray hip hip hooray.


You don't have to get all snippy bro. Sanchez, Cutler and Weeden didn't play all 16 off the top of my head. There are some legit QBs in there too. Even with real weapons. Brees' situation carrying the team wasn't all that different than Palmer's and he has a better OL, TE, WRs and a running game to lean on. What's his excuse?


not snippy dogg this is fun to me Laughing


You didn't answer his question....


losing his coach, team under turmoil maybe played a small role but ive said it before if you throw 43 tds im cool with at least half of them being ints. if palmer threw 43 tds and 21 ints id have no choice but to praise him.
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Can you hear that? That's the sound of NCough baaaacking up.

Beeep Beeep Beeeep.

I thought it was all about INTs?


It is when it supports his argument LOL then it turns to satire. More failing....

Not only that, the whole "He threw more TDs" is so obnoxious. Who's the MVP of a drive that goes 99 yards:

The QB who completed a 50 yard pass to a WR who ran to the 1 yard line and was tracked from behind

or

The RB who ran it in on the next play

It's the age old question. According to Dr Coughman's theory, the QB is worthless on that drive and means nothing b/c the RB, who just came off the exercise bike, has the "1" in his TD column.


if it leads to a win then its all good Cool
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um he had 13 ints in 09 so wouldnt that make it his lowest in 3yrs but anyways

even though he didnt finish the season you're right he should get props cause usually when he goes over 565att like in 2010 and 2007 he gets 20 ints. so yes you are right he should get props and i should be happy that he ONLY threw 14 ints. silly me those are great qb #'s how could i have missed this glorious milestone in cps career.


My bad for the keystroke. If you actually rate players you've seen, I'll proofread my posts more. But since you want to bring that up, he did have 100 less attempts in 09 than he did this year so take what you want from it.

Now, as for calling it a milestone, that's taking it over the top b/c that's not what I'm saying and who ever said they were great? Oh, just you b/c you have nothing so you attempt to mock the information provided. I gave you your favorite substance, stats, to refute your stupid point you attempted to make and you got nothing so you turn to satire. Once again, proving you have absolutely nothing to base your claim off of. Thanks. If you don't think Pryor would throw 14 INTs in one season, that's your fault.... but you still make up excuses for Russell so I don't expect you to understand one bit.


back to using demeaning words i see lol. i just acknowledged your facts. sorry i wasnt as impressed with them as you were.


Call it like I see it. Shouldn't be so sensitive. Maybe you can show me those "deep lakes and dark woods" like you wanted to... you know... just to show me.


sorry im a family first kinda guy. i wouldnt really expect you to understand that though
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Tacos wrote:
If we have a new and competent OC and CP can be successful in the RZ because of it, is there a point to running Pryor wildcat plays?


It will keep defenses on their toes so I wouldn't mind it. I just don't want him throwing frisbees around the end zone.
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