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Bo_Spice


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
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Maybe they'll relieve Greg Knapp of his duties and promote Al Saunders to offensive coordinator again.

A man can dream.


For today's game, sure. I don't want Saunders to be the answer going forward.


He'd be a huge upgrade over Gregg Knapp. But I guess any offensive coordinator with more than 10 plays in their playbook would be an upgrade. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we stay with the ZBS
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Bo_Spice wrote:
Darkness wrote:
Bo_Spice wrote:
Maybe they'll relieve Greg Knapp of his duties and promote Al Saunders to offensive coordinator again.

A man can dream.


For today's game, sure. I don't want Saunders to be the answer going forward.


He'd be a huge upgrade over Gregg Knapp. But I guess any offensive coordinator with more than 10 plays in their playbook would be an upgrade. Laughing


Why wouldn't someone want one of the best OCs in the history of the NFL.
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Why wouldn't someone want one of the best OCs in the history of the NFL.


I thought Al did a really good job with our offense last season. I'm not sure why people don't want him back and why they want to stick with the ZBS.

Our offense was at it's best when Hue implemented the PBS.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Terrelle Pryor looks good maybe they'll sign Chris Ault as OC, and install the pistol offense Terrelle Pryor, Darren McFadden, and Marcel Reece would make a nice pistol set. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bo_Spice wrote:
bitty wrote:
Why wouldn't someone want one of the best OCs in the history of the NFL.


I thought Al did a really good job with our offense last season. I'm not sure why people don't want him back and why they want to stick with the ZBS.

Our offense was at it's best when Hue implemented the PBS.


Are we going to have that same personnel forever? I think it's clear that Reggie wants the ZBS and I'm sure all of his roster moves will show that, most already have.
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Are we going to have that same personnel forever? I think it's clear that Reggie wants the ZBS and I'm sure all of his roster moves will show that, most already have.


No, but it's obvious that when we used the PBS last season our offense was much better than it was this year with the ZBS.

You should fit your system around your players, not your players into a system that hasn't worked for us...
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Bo_Spice wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Are we going to have that same personnel forever? I think it's clear that Reggie wants the ZBS and I'm sure all of his roster moves will show that, most already have.


No, but it's obvious that when we used the PBS last season our offense was much better than it was this year with the ZBS.

You should fit your system around your players, not your players into a system that hasn't worked for us...


In year 1 maybe but by year 2 you should have players to fit your system. Anybody who doesn't fit the ZBS won't be here long IMO.
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I don't understand why everybody thinks Green Bay is the pinnacle of NFL franchises?
In my opinion they are a joke. In the last ten years there drafts sucked.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Bo_Spice wrote:
bitty wrote:
Why wouldn't someone want one of the best OCs in the history of the NFL.


I thought Al did a really good job with our offense last season. I'm not sure why people don't want him back and why they want to stick with the ZBS.

Our offense was at it's best when Hue implemented the PBS.


Are we going to have that same personnel forever? I think it's clear that Reggie wants the ZBS and I'm sure all of his roster moves will show that, most already have.

That's not true. Reggie said he doesn't care what scheme we run, as long as it works.

Personally, I'm not a fan of ZBS. It may work for some teams, but there's different variations of it. A lot of things need to work precisely for it to be effective. I find the whole thing to be gimmicky. I'm more into the old school/traditional push your guy off the ball type offense, but that's just me.
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That's not true. Reggie said he doesn't care what scheme we run, as long as it works.

Personally, I'm not a fan of ZBS. It may work for some teams, but there's different variations of it. A lot of things need to work precisely for it to be effective. I find the whole thing to be gimmicky. I'm more into the old school/traditional push your guy off the ball type offense, but that's just me.


I've never really been a fan of the ZBS either and I hope whoever we do hire as our new offensive coordinator implements a PBS.
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Professor Oak wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Bo_Spice wrote:
bitty wrote:
Why wouldn't someone want one of the best OCs in the history of the NFL.


I thought Al did a really good job with our offense last season. I'm not sure why people don't want him back and why they want to stick with the ZBS.

Our offense was at it's best when Hue implemented the PBS.


Are we going to have that same personnel forever? I think it's clear that Reggie wants the ZBS and I'm sure all of his roster moves will show that, most already have.

That's not true. Reggie said he doesn't care what scheme we run, as long as it works.

Personally, I'm not a fan of ZBS. It may work for some teams, but there's different variations of it. A lot of things need to work precisely for it to be effective. I find the whole thing to be gimmicky. I'm more into the old school/traditional push your guy off the ball type offense, but that's just me.


My mistake then
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on the OC I'm okay with either system.
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Depending on the OC I'm okay with either system.


If we plan on keeping McFadden I hope we go back to the PBS, if we move him then I wouldn't mind sticking with the ZBS.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bo_Spice wrote:
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Depending on the OC I'm okay with either system.


If we plan on keeping McFadden I hope we go back to the PBS, if we move him then I wouldn't mind sticking with the ZBS.


Meh, I know where you are coming from, but either way I hope we don't build our system around a guy who can't stay healthy. IMO they shop him this off season.
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We'll see what happens but a healthy Darren McFadden in a power blocking scheme is one of the best running backs in the NFL.
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