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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:41 pm    Post subject: Black Monday to Strike Again Reply with quote

Black Monday hits tomorrow around the league.



Will keep this open for all coaching firings around the League.




Here is the list of rumored to get the Axe or is on the Hot Seat and could find that dreaded pink slip in the interoffice mail:

I will keep this OP updated as to who is let loose in the following days and weeks, if you see something, post it here, discuss it here (unless it's a Cowboys Coach of course).

General Managers released:
Jaguars: Gene Smith
Browns: Tom Heckert
Jets: Mike Tannenbaum
Chargers: A.J. Smith
Cardinals: Rod Graves
Chiefs: Scott Pioli

Head Coach's released:
Eagles: Andy Reid fired /
Browns: Pat Shurmer fired /
Chiefs: Romeo Crennel / new HC Andy Reid
Bears: Lovie Smith fired /
Bills: Chan Gailey fired / new HC Doug Marrone
Chargers: Norv Turner fired /
Cardinals: Ken Whisenhunt fired /

Offensive Coord's released:
Cardinals: Mike Miller and Russ Grimm
Browns: All coaches free to talk to other teams (not fired yet)
Bills: Curtis Modkins
Raiders: Greg Knapp
Jaguars: All coaches free to talk to other teams (not fired yet)

Defensive Coord's released:
Bills: Dave Wannstedt

Special Teams Coord's released:
Bills: Stan Kwan
Raiders: Steve Hoffman
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Despite a disappointing season, The Tennessean is reporting that head coach Mike Munchak will return as the head coach in 2013.



And just posted this over in KC forum...Pioli Survives if Changes Made [Rumor]
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Shurmer is fired I think that would be a mistake. He has done well considering what he had to work with. Rookie qb, rb and a team in dissary entering the season he has stabilized that franchise in a short amount of time.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/30/woody-johnson-skipping-jets-game/

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Woody Johnson is not attending the regular-season finale at Buffalo.

Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com writes that Johnson “rarely” misses a game, and that he has said nothing about the future of any of his key employees.

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I've been pondering this recently and haven't seen it discussed on here (I may have missed it), but would you guys consider bringing in Sparano to be our OC?

I know he hasn't had a lot of success since leaving Dallas, but he also hasn't had the offensive talent we have. Also, Garret and Sparano have worked together successfully before (Led to a 13-3 record).
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Nextyearfordaboyz wrote:
I've been pondering this recently and haven't seen it discussed on here (I may have missed it), but would you guys consider bringing in Sparano to be our OC?

I know he hasn't had a lot of success since leaving Dallas, but he also hasn't had the offensive talent we have. Also, Garret and Sparano have worked together successfully before (Led to a 13-3 record).
It has been discussed in other threads, most of us where against it.

Personally, I didn't like his offense in Miami, all the gimmics and Wild Cat crap, and his offense in NY has been just down right pittiful and very hard to swallow. There is no wonder as to why he is getting the axe.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy Reid to be fired Monday
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If Shurmer is fired I think that would be a mistake. He has done well considering what he had to work with. Rookie qb, rb and a team in dissary entering the season he has stabilized that franchise in a short amount of time.


I completely agree. This is the first season in many, many years where the Browns were even competitive. Given how young and inexperienced the team is, that's a credit to Shurmer's coaching. He should have at least 2 more seasons before being evaluated due to the large number of rookies on offense.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/30/report-lurie-has-already-told-reid-hes-fired/


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According to Reuben Frank of CSNPhilly.com, Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie has already told coach Andy Reid he’s fired.


That was quick!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have updated the OP with several official firings as of this morning
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textaz03 wrote:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/30/report-lurie-has-already-told-reid-hes-fired/


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According to Reuben Frank of CSNPhilly.com, Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie has already told coach Andy Reid he’s fired.


That was quick!


The Eagles gave up on him the same way we gave up on Fat Wade.
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Before I left for work, I saw that ESPN bottom ticker had Turner, fired.
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plan9misfit wrote:
Football Mensa wrote:
If Shurmer is fired I think that would be a mistake. He has done well considering what he had to work with. Rookie qb, rb and a team in dissary entering the season he has stabilized that franchise in a short amount of time.


I completely agree. This is the first season in many, many years where the Browns were even competitive. Given how young and inexperienced the team is, that's a credit to Shurmer's coaching. He should have at least 2 more seasons before being evaluated due to the large number of rookies on offense.


And why where they competitive? Thy did play hard for their coach or just good coaching. Is it because they drafted lineman early n often? ( I think they have drafted the same like us on the line, was discussed after the Clev game) . Give him at least 3 seasons ??? Do you feel that way about most head coaches?
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plan9misfit wrote:
Football Mensa wrote:
If Shurmer is fired I think that would be a mistake. He has done well considering what he had to work with. Rookie qb, rb and a team in dissary entering the season he has stabilized that franchise in a short amount of time.


I completely agree. This is the first season in many, many years where the Browns were even competitive. Given how young and inexperienced the team is, that's a credit to Shurmer's coaching. He should have at least 2 more seasons before being evaluated due to the large number of rookies on offense.


And why where they competitive?


Because they have invested premium resources in key areas of the team. Notably, the offensive line. That's why Weeden and Richardson played reasonably well for rookies. Great offensive lines make every skill position player better, and Cleveland had three rookie starters on offense: QB, RB, and WR. Yet, they were able to score points and compete with the best of them.

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Thy did play hard for their coach or just good coaching.


Both, actually. They clearly played hard, but there were some really solid situational play calls which can only have come from the staff. Just look at how well they played against us. They came in and punched us in the mouth and we squeaked out a win in OT.

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Is it because they drafted lineman early n often? ( I think they have drafted the same like us on the line, was discussed after the Clev game).


They've invested premium resources in the lines, but mainly on the o-line. As I also pointed out, they also played a rookie at QB, RB, and WR and remained very competitive.

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Give him at least 3 seasons ??? Do you feel that way about most head coaches?


I do. And seeing that Garrett has been here for 6 seasons, his three years are up. He was the defacto head coach before Wade was even hired, so, in my opinion, he's proven what he can and cannot do. And our record of "success" over these many years has proven that he can't do much.
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Before I left for work, I saw that ESPN bottom ticker had Turner, fired.


have to bring him in for a visit as quick as possible. We need him.
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