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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would also take Lynch, but with that said, I would take the 2005 rushing offense. Lynch is the better runner, but what that team could do on the ground was unprecedented.
If that is directed at me, I'm not disagreeing with that, I am agreeing with it.


Not really directed at you, just kinda expanding off of what you said Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Our current day receiving core is better and I'd take Lynch over an '05 Alexander even, but that it's on offense. As much as Wilson is loved, he's not on an '05 Hass level. Hass was killing it that year. That defense in '05 was not as talented as ours, but they got a lot more out of it. Bryce Fisher and Bernard were huge glue guys for us in the pass rush and Lofa was a boss year 1.

I'd take the '05 team.


And the sole year Marcus Tubbs stayed healthy Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would also take Lynch, but with that said, I would take the 2005 rushing offense. Lynch is the better runner, but what that team could do on the ground was unprecedented.
I agree if Lynch where behind the 05 olive he would would have put up record numbers and with the ability of Russ I wish we had half of what Steve and Walt did... that team was so balanced that I would take them over this team... but I think next year with a good draft we could be on the edge of a dynasty... knock on wood.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a h2h matchup, I think '05 would win, simply due to the O-line play. Walt and Hutch were in elite air space, just so utterly dominant it was unreal. Plus as others have mentioned, Hass and Engram would've torched this D. We just can't stop quality slot receivers and that combo would ruin this year's version of Trufant. We can barely get a pass rush going as it is this year, but factor that in with Walt, Hutch and Hass' quick pass game. Clem would be non-existent at best. Our run D that year was pretty good with Tubbs actually staying healthy and Rocky Bernard providing an interior pass rush. I think they would cause problems for guys like Sweezy, McQuistan, and Breno. Overall, I think '05 was just a better team than this years squad, but give them 1 or 2 more years of development and a couple more quality drafts and it might be a whole different story. That '05 team took a few years to mature into the SB team, too. It wasn't just an overnight sensation.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd also take rocky bernard to help out this run D at the point of attack, he was one of those guys that never got washed out at the point of attack. Would've really helped with those TE whams and traps at the LOS this season....they killed us
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meeker wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
Our current day receiving core is better and I'd take Lynch over an '05 Alexander even, but that it's on offense. As much as Wilson is loved, he's not on an '05 Hass level. Hass was killing it that year. That defense in '05 was not as talented as ours, but they got a lot more out of it. Bryce Fisher and Bernard were huge glue guys for us in the pass rush and Lofa was a boss year 1.

I'd take the '05 team.


And the sole year Marcus Tubbs stayed healthy Crying or Very sad
That man was an injury bust and a half.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

05 team imo. Alexander would get his yards definitely but Matt Hasselbeck would have a year to throw given the O-Line he was playing behind. Hutchinson would mow through Mebane frankly.... I love Mebane but Hutchinson prime was ridiculous. And then Jones vs. Clemons lol.... look I love Chris Clemons, but he's not consistently getting through Walter Jones.

Ponder is terrible... Hasselbeck was actually a very good QB end of day.

Offensively 2012 vs. 2005 is a good match up but Seattle had some decent pass rushers across the board in 05. Rocky Bernard, Marcus Tubbs, Bryce Fisher. And I'm not sold Wilson could get huge plays against that team... even when he has 5 seconds at times nobody seems to get open. Lofa was also a VERY good ILB that would not let Wilson run all over.
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Depends.

Who's at home?

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I like your 2012 team a lot, you guys impress me every time I see you play. You are also so hot at the right time I think you might win the superb owl.
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If I'm the '12 team I'm not gonna be naive and stick Clem on Walter Jones. I flip the personnel and have Red essentially wash out Walt in the run game and have Clemons attack Sean Locklear. Hutch is great, but I think a battle between he and Mebane would be more competitive than some of you lead me to believe, at least in the run game. Obviously Hutch would dominate him in pass pro.

Russell could definitely take advantage of the '05 secondary. At the end of the day, I think it comes down to the '05 running game and the precision of Hass.
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I like your 2012 team a lot, you guys impress me every time I see you play. You are also so hot at the right time I think you might win the superb owl.

I think the winner of the Redskins-Seahawks game will make the NFCCG or even the Super Bowl. They are the two hottest teams in the NFC right now.
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If I'm the '12 team I'm not gonna be naive and stick Clem on Walter Jones. I flip the personnel and have Red essentially wash out Walt in the run game and have Clemons attack Sean Locklear. Hutch is great, but I think a battle between he and Mebane would be more competitive than some of you lead me to believe, at least in the run game. Obviously Hutch would dominate him in pass pro.

Russell could definitely take advantage of the '05 secondary. At the end of the day, I think it comes down to the '05 running game and the precision of Hass.


Even then, Robbie Tobeck and Chris Gray were very respectable that year. Chris Gray would be a blessing (albeit not a scheme fit) on this current team.

And Big Walt would kill Big Red Laughing. He would eliminate Big Red on his own in the run game.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I'm the '12 team I'm not gonna be naive and stick Clem on Walter Jones. I flip the personnel and have Red essentially wash out Walt in the run game and have Clemons attack Sean Locklear. Hutch is great, but I think a battle between he and Mebane would be more competitive than some of you lead me to believe, at least in the run game. Obviously Hutch would dominate him in pass pro.

Russell could definitely take advantage of the '05 secondary. At the end of the day, I think it comes down to the '05 running game and the precision of Hass.


Even then, Robbie Tobeck and Chris Gray were very respectable that year. Chris Gray would be a blessing (albeit not a scheme fit) on this current team.

And Big Walt would kill Big Red Laughing. He would eliminate Big Red on his own in the run game.


I don't know about that. Red usually requires double teams versus the run and, while Walt is certainly elite, I don't think he'd do much more than neutralize Red. It'd be a pretty even battle as far as the run game is concerned.
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SaveourSonics wrote:
Tooki wrote:
SaveourSonics wrote:
If I'm the '12 team I'm not gonna be naive and stick Clem on Walter Jones. I flip the personnel and have Red essentially wash out Walt in the run game and have Clemons attack Sean Locklear. Hutch is great, but I think a battle between he and Mebane would be more competitive than some of you lead me to believe, at least in the run game. Obviously Hutch would dominate him in pass pro.

Russell could definitely take advantage of the '05 secondary. At the end of the day, I think it comes down to the '05 running game and the precision of Hass.


Even then, Robbie Tobeck and Chris Gray were very respectable that year. Chris Gray would be a blessing (albeit not a scheme fit) on this current team.

And Big Walt would kill Big Red Laughing. He would eliminate Big Red on his own in the run game.


I don't know about that. Red usually requires double teams versus the run and, while Walt is certainly elite, I don't think he'd do much more than neutralize Red. It'd be a pretty even battle as far as the run game is concerned.
if you can neutralize red with one guy consistently than this team is in trouble in the run game.
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