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KeithVikings28
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 Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:15 am Post subject: Percy Harvin Trade! |
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| Would Bengals fans be willing to trade the 2nd round pick acquired from the Raiders and a 4th round pick for WR/RB/KR/PR Percy Harvin? Harvin would be dominate in the slot with AJ Green split out wide. Harvin could also compliment "The Lawfirm"'s power running style in the backfield. That would give the Bengals a power back and a scatback. Opinions please. |
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johndeere1707
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No we already have a Percy Harvin in Andrew Hawkins. Obviously not as good, but still pretty good
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TheVillain112
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No, we can't afford him...
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Jason_Bengal_Fl
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| johndeere1707 wrote: | | No we already have a Percy Harvin in Andrew Hawkins. Obviously not as good, but still pretty good |
I don't think there's much difference at all. Hawk has more TDs. The ypc is only 0.1 different. The only difference is Harvin has more catches, and Harvin is the Vikes #1 guy. Hawk is at best our 2.
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I wouldnt be opposed to bringing him in, just not at the price you want. There is no question Harvin is an upgrade over Hawkins. However, he isn't a high 2nd and 4th round picks worth of an upgrade. At best I would give up a 3rd or a 5th and Hawkins. That would only be if he were willing to sign a team friendly extension as well.
Honestly, Harvin is worth a lot more to you guys, then what you would be getting in return from probably 95% of the teams... There is a team in Oakland I hear who overpays for players...  May want to give them a call.
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| Jason_Bengal_Fl wrote: | | johndeere1707 wrote: | | No we already have a Percy Harvin in Andrew Hawkins. Obviously not as good, but still pretty good |
I don't think there's much difference at all. Hawk has more TDs. The ypc is only 0.1 different. The only difference is Harvin has more catches, and Harvin is the Vikes #1 guy. Hawk is at best our 2. |
Let's be real. Harvin is 3x player Hawkins is. I love some baby Hawk, but he's pretty one dimensional as far as receivers go. He'll catch the slants, screens and the occasional over the middle ball, but Harvin is a weapon everywhere. Not to mention he's way more powerful, a dangerous returner, and can run the ball well too.
I'd do the trade if the contracts worked out, but they wouldn't. Too many great young Bengals players to sign in the next few years. Can't afford him.
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KeithVikings28
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Jason_Bengal_Fl wrote: | | johndeere1707 wrote: | | No we already have a Percy Harvin in Andrew Hawkins. Obviously not as good, but still pretty good |
I don't think there's much difference at all. Hawk has more TDs. The ypc is only 0.1 different. The only difference is Harvin has more catches, and Harvin is the Vikes #1 guy. Hawk is at best our 2. |
Hawkins isn't comparable to Percy Harvin. In 9 games Harvin had 677yds rec and 96yds rushing, as well as 574 return yds 1 for a td. Harvin hasn't played since 11/4, a whole month ago. Hawkins in 13 games only has 515yds rec and 30yds rushing. |
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KeithVikings28
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Let's be real. Harvin is 3x player Hawkins is. I love some baby Hawk, but he's pretty one dimensional as far as receivers go. He'll catch the slants, screens and the occasional over the middle ball, but Harvin is a weapon everywhere. Not to mention he's way more powerful, a dangerous returner, and can run the ball well too.
I'd do the trade if the contracts worked out, but they wouldn't. Too many great young Bengals players to sign in the next few years. Can't afford him.[/quote]
Thank you for being logical. I thought it would be a good trade for both parties. Harvin and Green together would be too much for opposing defenses. Their different style of plays compliment each other very well. Good luck in the playoffs, congrats on beating Pittsburgh. |
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johndeere1707
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| KeithVikings28 wrote: | Let's be real. Harvin is 3x player Hawkins is. I love some baby Hawk, but he's pretty one dimensional as far as receivers go. He'll catch the slants, screens and the occasional over the middle ball, but Harvin is a weapon everywhere. Not to mention he's way more powerful, a dangerous returner, and can run the ball well too.
I'd do the trade if the contracts worked out, but they wouldn't. Too many great young Bengals players to sign in the next few years. Can't afford him. |
Thank you for being logical. I thought it would be a good trade for both parties. Harvin and Green together would be too much for opposing defenses. Their different style of plays compliment each other very well. Good luck in the playoffs, congrats on beating Pittsburgh.[/quote]
I never said he was comparable. I said that he is the same type of player and produces for us at a reasonable price. Harvin would def be an upgrade just not worth it for us
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| KeithVikings28 wrote: |
Thank you for being logical. I thought it would be a good trade for both parties. Harvin and Green together would be too much for opposing defenses. Their different style of plays compliment each other very well. Good luck in the playoffs, congrats on beating Pittsburgh. |
Look, it isn't a matter of Harvin being equal to Hawkins, because that would be foolish to make the argument. I just do not think the upgrade from Hawkins to Harvin would be worth essentially a 1st round pick(a top 3 2nd round pick) plus a 4th.
If I had to choose from Hawkins, Oaklands 2nd and our 4th or Harvin, I would certainly take the former. If you are looking for a 1st and 4th, your best bet would be Oakland or Washington.
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I would love to get Harvin, but not at that price. I think we could get a guy like Austin in the 2nd if we really want someone like that. But we have needs in other places
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INbengalfan
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No thanks. Would rather just draft someone.
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Jason_Bengal_Fl
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| KeithVikings28 wrote: | | Jason_Bengal_Fl wrote: | | johndeere1707 wrote: | | No we already have a Percy Harvin in Andrew Hawkins. Obviously not as good, but still pretty good |
I don't think there's much difference at all. Hawk has more TDs. The ypc is only 0.1 different. The only difference is Harvin has more catches, and Harvin is the Vikes #1 guy. Hawk is at best our 2. |
Hawkins isn't comparable to Percy Harvin. In 9 games Harvin had 677yds rec and 96yds rushing, as well as 574 return yds 1 for a td. Harvin hasn't played since 11/4, a whole month ago. Hawkins in 13 games only has 515yds rec and 30yds rushing. |
Because Harvin is your #1 option.
Hawkins is at best our 2 and more like 3 or 4. If you look at the per play numbers they are not all that different.
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| KeithVikings28 wrote: | | Let's be real. Harvin is 3x player Hawkins is. I love some baby Hawk, but he's pretty one dimensional as far as receivers go. He'll catch the slants, screens and the occasional over the middle ball, but Harvin is a weapon everywhere. Not to mention he's way more powerful, a dangerous returner, and can run the ball well too. |
If Harvin is that good why are you trying to trade him ?
You answered your own question. I don't know how the numbers stack, but Harvin seems to me to be injured alot.
I like our young group of developing WR's in AJ, Sanu, Hawk, Jones, Whalen, to who'm I'd like to see another draftee added.
No thanks, I'd stick with Hawkins...
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