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RainbowCarebear
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| Remixxxxxxx wrote: | Well I'm sorry that my opinion of him is different then yours. However, you do tend to overrate Eagles players all the time - top five talented team in the NFL  |
It's just not my opinion, it's actually people who bother to re watch the game.
And when I said that we we're 3-1? And had overcome turnovers and still pulled through.
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Juandamentals
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Rate this years starters out of 10 |
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QB
Michael Vick - 5
Nick Foles - 8
RB/FB
LeSean McCoy - 6
Bryce Brown - 6
Dion Lewis - 3
Stanley Havili - 6
WR
DeSean Jackson - 6
Jeremy Maclin - 4
Jason Avant - 9
Damaris Johnson - 6
Riley Cooper - 7
TE
Brent Celek - 5
Clay Harbor - 5
OT
Demetress Bell - 0.5
King Dunlap - 0.9
Evan Mathis - 7
Jake Scott - LOLWHO??
Danny Watkins - 2
Jason Kelce - 6
Todd Herremans - 8
D-line
Fletcher Cox - 8
Cullen Jenkins - 6
Trent Cole - 6
Brandon Graham - 7
Cedric Thornton - 4
Vinny Curry - 3
Darryl Tapp - 4
Derek Landri - 5
Phillip Hunt - 4
LB
DeMeco Ryans - 7
Mychal Kendricks - 7
Jamar Chaney - 4
Akeem Jordan - 3
Casey Matthews - 3
Ryan Rau -
CB
Dominique RC - 5
Nnamdi Asomugha - 3
Brandon Boykin - 4
Curtis Marsh - 5
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Nate Allen - 4
Kurt Coleman - 2
Colt Anderson - 5
David Sims - 4
Special Teams
Alex Henery - 9
Mat McBriar - 4
Jon Dorenbos - 100 |
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RainbowCarebear
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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We need more Juandamentals
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willy_law
Joined: 10 Jan 2010
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Location: Villanova University
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Rate this years starters out of 10 |
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For all the slower posters the "()" means negative
| Quote: | QB
Michael Vick - 3
Nick Foles - 5
RB/FB
LeSean McCoy - 7
Bryce Brown - 7
Dion Lewis - 3
Stanley Havili - 4
WR
DeSean Jackson - 5
Jeremy Maclin - 6
Jason Avant - 4
Damaris Johnson - 3
Riley Cooper - 6
TE
Brent Celek - 3
Clay Harbor - (1)
OT
Demetress Bell - (1000000)
King Dunlap - 4
Evan Mathis - 8
Jake Scott - 6
Danny Watkins -3
Jason Kelce - 5
Todd Herremans - 7
D-line
Fletcher Cox - 6
Cullen Jenkins - 2
Trent Cole - 4
Brandon Graham - 5
Cedric Thornton - 5
Vinny Curry - 2
Darryl Tapp - (1)
Derek Landri - 4
Phillip Hunt - 2
LB
DeMeco Ryans - 8
Mychal Kendricks - 6
Jamar Chaney -3
Akeem Jordan - 4
Casey Matthews - 2
Ryan Rau - HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA No.
CB
Dominique RC - 7
Nnamdi Asomugha - 4
Brandon Boykin - 4
Curtis Marsh - 2
S
Nate Allen - 2
Kurt Coleman - 2
Colt Anderson - 3
David Sims - 2
Special Teams
Alex Henery - 8
Mat McBriar - 5
Jon Dorenbos - 1000 |
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baconrad3
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Location: Tempe, AZ
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Rate this years starters out of 10 |
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5 means average, 4 means slightly below average, 6 is slightly above, etc
| Quote: | QB
Michael Vick - 2
Nick Foles - 4.5
RB/FB
LeSean McCoy - 7.5
Bryce Brown - 6
Dion Lewis - 4
Stanley Havili - 5
WR
DeSean Jackson - 6.5
Jeremy Maclin - 7
Jason Avant - 6
Damaris Johnson - 5
Riley Cooper - 4.5
TE
Brent Celek - 6
Clay Harbor - 2
OT
Demetress Bell - 1
King Dunlap - 3
Evan Mathis - 5
Jake Scott - 5
Danny Watkins - 3
Jason Kelce - 5
Todd Herremans - 5
D-line
Fletcher Cox - 8
Cullen Jenkins - 6
Trent Cole - 5.5
Brandon Graham - 6.5
Cedric Thornton - 5
Vinny Curry - 5
Darryl Tapp - 4.5
Derek Landri - 4
Phillip Hunt - 4
LB
DeMeco Ryans - 7.5
Mychal Kendricks - 6
Jamar Chaney - 5
Akeem Jordan - 5
Casey Matthews - 2
Ryan Rau - N/A
CB
Dominique RC - 6.5
Nnamdi Asomugha - 5.5
Brandon Boykin - 5.5
Curtis Marsh - 5
S
Nate Allen - 4
Kurt Coleman - 2
Colt Anderson - 5
David Sims - 4
Special Teams
Alex Henery - 9
Mat McBriar - 7
Jon Dorenbos - 10 |
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baconrad3
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Willy...why is Avant a 4? He's been pretty good this year......no way has he been below average, which 4 indicates.
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Remixxxxxxx
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| baconrad3 wrote: | | Willy...why is Avant a 4? He's been pretty good this year......no way has he been below average, which 4 indicates. |
If Jason Avant is a 7[above average], then who do you consider to be average in the NFL?
You've managed to overrate every player on this roster in rankings.
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RainbowCarebear
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Should we rate after how we thought players would play, or how well they played compared to their expectations or skills?
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Remixxxxxxx
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Should we rate after how we thought players would play, or how well they played compared to their expectations or skills? |
I rated them based on how they played this year.
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willy_law
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| baconrad3 wrote: | | Willy...why is Avant a 4? He's been pretty good this year......no way has he been below average, which 4 indicates. |
4 means slightly below average, it doesn't mean he sucks. It doesnt mean we should get rid of them. It means he played below average. There is room to improve but it isn't horrible.
The people I thought were horrible have the negatives.
why is avant a seven? you literally mean to tell me that Avant played .5 worse than Shady? or performed as well as Maclin or Jackson?
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Phire
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Should we rate after how we thought players would play, or how well they played compared to their expectations or skills? |
I ranked them based on how they performed this year, excluding expectations just overall body of work and contribution this year.
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RandyMossIsBoss
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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The OP was far too broad with this question. You can't just go rate every player 1-10, it's far more complicated then that.
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baconrad3
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | baconrad3 wrote: | | Willy...why is Avant a 4? He's been pretty good this year......no way has he been below average, which 4 indicates. |
If Jason Avant is a 7[above average], then who do you consider to be average in the NFL?
You've managed to overrate every player on this roster in rankings. |
He is a slightly above average player....He isn't just some below average-average WR.
I consider the average WR in the NFL to be the guys ranked around 75-80 in rankings. Considering there are 150+ WRs on NFL rosters who get playing time...I think it is safe to say that Avant is better than 75+ of them.
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baconrad3
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| willy_law wrote: | | baconrad3 wrote: | | Willy...why is Avant a 4? He's been pretty good this year......no way has he been below average, which 4 indicates. |
4 means slightly below average, it doesn't mean he sucks. It doesnt mean we should get rid of them. It means he played below average. There is room to improve but it isn't horrible.
The people I thought were horrible have the negatives.
why is avant a seven? you literally mean to tell me that Avant played .5 worse than Shady? or performed as well as Maclin or Jackson? |
Compared to other #3 WRs....Avant was above average. I'm not comparing him to Shady. They play different positions. I'm comparing these guys to the rest of the players of their position in the NFL
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Eagles_808
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| baconrad3 wrote: | | Compared to other #3 WRs....Avant was above average. I'm not comparing him to Shady. They play different positions. I'm comparing these guys to the rest of the players of their position in the NFL |
No! Avant has 0 TDs in his last 4000 games. He's garbage.
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