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kethnaab


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lionslicer wrote:
Cardinals will trade an 8th rounder for him.


sold.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mosteelers wrote:
He isn't a bad player. Our best run blocker.


Yes he was.
No he wasn't, not even close.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kethnaab wrote:
mosteelers wrote:
He isn't a bad player. Our best run blocker.


Yes he was.
No he wasn't, not even close.


I was about to say Mike Adams probably is!! See how it magically suffered when he got injured?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

at23steelers wrote:
kethnaab wrote:
mosteelers wrote:
He isn't a bad player. Our best run blocker.


Yes he was.
No he wasn't, not even close.


I was about to say Mike Adams probably is!! See how it magically suffered when he got injured?


The Steelers suffered so many injuries this year but Adams loss may have gone unnoticed around the league but Steeler fans realize how big it negatively affected the running game. He needs work in pass protection and hopefully the new OL coach can guide him the way Lake has elevated the secondary. The new OL coach will have some young talent to work with and he will be an important offseason hire.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

at23steelers wrote:
kethnaab wrote:
mosteelers wrote:
He isn't a bad player. Our best run blocker.


Yes he was.
No he wasn't, not even close.


I was about to say Mike Adams probably is!! See how it magically suffered when he got injured?


yup

130ish YPG while he's in, 60ish when he's out

Colon was irrelevant. He had a few decent games, not coinicdentally when Adams was at RT and Colon didn't have to actually root someone out of the hole when he pulled (which he almost never succeeded at doing)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kethnaab wrote:
mosteelers wrote:
He isn't a bad player. Our best run blocker.


Yes he was.
No he wasn't, not even close.


Let's just agree to disagree















with your point.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kethnaab wrote:
mosteelers wrote:
He isn't a bad player. Our best run blocker.


Yes he was.
No he wasn't, not even close.


Agreed.

Colon had his moments. More often than not he was mediocre in every phase of the game.

Colon has been CALLED for tons of holds, and gotten away with probably twice as many as he has gotten called for.

The dude is a fat, walking penalty waiting to happen, and his play isnt nearly good enough to overlook that.
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The Curtain


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The penalties + injuries make him nowhere near worth keeping around. That's even if he was a GOOD lineman, which he is not.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kethnaab wrote:
mosteelers wrote:
He isn't a bad player. Our best run blocker.


Yes he was.
No he wasn't, not even close.


mosteeler -Adams was the best run blocker, or the only good run blocker. The OL was much improved with him in there. (please) Stop listening to colonsworth or phil sims. Rolling Eyes Glad the season is over, no searching for the mute button for colonsworth or sims. The commentators of today are terrible for the most part. goodell must pick the cast as well
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

he led the NFL in holding penalties, despite missing, what, 3 games? 4 games?

he had another that was declined, and another that was offsetting.

he had more holding penalties than the rest of the Steelers' OL combined.

here:


Ramon Foster - 4 penalties, 2 holding
Max Starks - 3 penalties, 1 illegal use of hands
Marcus Gilbert - 2 penalties, 1 holding
Kelvin Beachum - 2 penalties, 1 holding
Mike Adams - 2 penalties, 1 holding
Doug Legursky - 2 penalties, 2 holding
Maurkice Pouncey - 2 penalties, 0 holding

totals for entire offensive line: 68.5 games, 17 penalties, 8 holding. An average of 1 penalty every 4 player-games, 1 holding call every 8.5 player-games

Willie Colon himself - 11.5 games, 12 penalties, 8 holding. An average of 1 penalty every game, and 2 holding penalties every 3 games

by point of comparison, D'Anthony Batiste, Arizona's LT who gave up 11 sacks this season, caused 63 yards lost on his sacks. Colon's penalties were over 80 yards, and again, that's discounting another 20 yards in penalties that were either declined or offsetting.

So essentially, Colon's penalties were worth one full lost football field.
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