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redsoxsrule1437
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:49 pm Post subject: The Bengals |
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Does matching up with the Bengals scare anyone else?
Assuming we're the 3rd seed, we'll open our play off run with a home game against Cincinnati.
A pass rush is the key to beating the Patriots. Geno Atkins is a beast. They currently lead the league in sacks. If they can get in Brady's face we'll have a tough time on offense. Overall, I'm impressed with their defense. They also have a man named AJ Green on the other side of the ball who could give us fits. We all know what BJGE brings to the table, he really doesn't worry me much. Their offense is very talented, just inconsistent at times. I'm not sold on Dalton, but we have made some bad QB's look good this year.
What do you guys think? _________________
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goldfishwars 
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I think they have some nice pieces, but are probably a couple of years away from where they want to be. Atkins will give us problems because he is class, but I don't think they are a bad match-up for us by any means. _________________
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Tzimisce 
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Andy Dalton.
Denver is the only AFC playoff team that worries me. _________________
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24isthelaw
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: The Bengals |
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| redsoxsrule1437 wrote: | Does matching up with the Bengals scare anyone else?
Assuming we're the 3rd seed, we'll open our play off run with a home game against Cincinnati.
A pass rush is the key to beating the Patriots. Geno Atkins is a beast. They currently lead the league in sacks. If they can get in Brady's face we'll have a tough time on offense. Overall, I'm impressed with their defense. They also have a man named AJ Green on the other side of the ball who could give us fits. We all know what BJGE brings to the table, he really doesn't worry me much. Their offense is very talented, just inconsistent at times. I'm not sold on Dalton, but we have made some bad QB's look good this year.
What do you guys think? |
I love the Pats D vs. Bengals O matchup.
As has been noted on here before, our secondary matches up far better against teams with a top receiver and poor secondary targets, than it does against teams with capable 1-3 receivers. Cincy fits the former description. Plus, our run defense matches up much better against tough inside runners than it does against off-tackle, bounce it outside type speed guys. Lawfirm is definitely an inside runner and doesn't have the speed to burn our bigger LBs. _________________
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Donut 
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Tzimisce wrote: | Andy Dalton.
Denver is the only AFC playoff team that worries me. |
Same. NFC has all the tough teams this yr. _________________
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mcmurtry86
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not saying they couldn't beat New England but they're IMO the easiest match-up for the Pats.
I feel fairly confident that the Pats can score 24-27 points on everyone in the AFC if they don't turn the ball over a stupid number of times. The Bengals are the team I see having the hardest time scoring that many against New England.
They have one really good threat (Green) and not much else that the Pats couldn't handle. Their secondary receivers and Gresham aren't especially dangerous in the gamebreaking sense and they don't have enough speed to really exploit the Pats slow LB's.
On top of that, Green-Ellis is the ideal RB for the Pats to match up against. He's not especially good in the pass game or a big threat on draws/screens and he likes everything between the tackles.
In other words, assuming the Pats continue their success shutting down their opponent's #1 weapon, I don't see how the Bengals can possibly score enough points to win.
Their D is good (mostly their passrush) and Atkins is certainly a problem, but I think Brady can handle their secondary and LB's |
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Stunnaboy 
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:35 am Post subject: |
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As bad as this is to say, I'm looking forward to the Denver-Pats game already
I actually think this game ends up being a blowout, similar to the Denver-Bengals game earlier this year. Nice return for the Law Firm and Tate though _________________
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InRodWeRust 
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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We almost lost to the Jags. I'm scared of every team now  _________________
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ChazStandard 
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Geno Atkins bothers me....he's exactly the sort of player that has good games against us. Plus you never know when Mankins will decide to play as if his brain has been switched with a particularly uneducated potato.
Where's the best place to get snap % stats? How much does Atkins come out? Because I'd be all for no-huddling to keep him on the sidelines, but he's not someone I imagine misses many snaps. _________________
| ConnPatFan wrote: | | We always assumed BB was playing chess...In fact he is playing Monopoly, and can now put up hotels on Rutgers Secondary. |
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mcmurtry86
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| ChazStandard wrote: | Geno Atkins bothers me....he's exactly the sort of player that has good games against us. Plus you never know when Mankins will decide to play as if his brain has been switched with a particularly uneducated potato.
Where's the best place to get snap % stats? How much does Atkins come out? Because I'd be all for no-huddling to keep him on the sidelines, but he's not someone I imagine misses many snaps. |
Atkins will have probably have a good game but the Pats might be able to either wear him and will likely double-teaming him.
Who knows though, McDaniels doesn't always go with the obvious |
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ChazStandard 
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | ChazStandard wrote: | Geno Atkins bothers me....he's exactly the sort of player that has good games against us. Plus you never know when Mankins will decide to play as if his brain has been switched with a particularly uneducated potato.
Where's the best place to get snap % stats? How much does Atkins come out? Because I'd be all for no-huddling to keep him on the sidelines, but he's not someone I imagine misses many snaps. |
Atkins will have probably have a good game but the Pats might be able to either wear him and will likely double-teaming him.
Who knows though, McDaniels doesn't always go with the obvious |
That'd be the fear...that the O-line is constantly giving up pressure in the middle but for some reason we keep calling long-developing plays or running draws from the gun.
That's the blue print for the offense looking putrid. _________________
| ConnPatFan wrote: | | We always assumed BB was playing chess...In fact he is playing Monopoly, and can now put up hotels on Rutgers Secondary. |
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mcmurtry86
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ChazStandard wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | ChazStandard wrote: | Geno Atkins bothers me....he's exactly the sort of player that has good games against us. Plus you never know when Mankins will decide to play as if his brain has been switched with a particularly uneducated potato.
Where's the best place to get snap % stats? How much does Atkins come out? Because I'd be all for no-huddling to keep him on the sidelines, but he's not someone I imagine misses many snaps. |
Atkins will have probably have a good game but the Pats might be able to either wear him and will likely double-teaming him.
Who knows though, McDaniels doesn't always go with the obvious |
That'd be the fear...that the O-line is constantly giving up pressure in the middle but for some reason we keep calling long-developing plays or running draws from the gun.
That's the blue print for the offense looking putrid. |
McDaniels stupidity is the real risk, not Geno Atkins. The Pats have the talent on offense to overcome the interior rush. Whether or not McDaniels is smart enough and capable enough is another story. |
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Canton
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Bengals wouldn't be an issue. As far offense, they simply do not have enough guys to cover Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Deion Branch, Danny Woodhead, Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez. Not to mention the multiple skill sets and versatility that each one of those guys possesses. Additionally, Stevan Ridley will do his thing for sure, despite Geno Atkins. And I actually think the O-Line can neutralize Atkins. As for defense, Alphonzo Dennard or Aqib Talib can cover AJ Green, and any other receivers. And Dalton would feel pressure often, not having enough time to get the ball off in the first place. |
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mcmurtry86
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Canton wrote: | | As far offense, they simply do not have enough guys to cover Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Deion Branch, Danny Woodhead, Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez. |
I'd love to see how you get all 6 of those guys on the field at the same time. Perhaps some sort of wildcat package?
| Quote: | | As for defense, Alphonzo Dennard or Aqib Talib can cover AJ Green, and any other receivers. |
No mediocre CB can cover AJ Green one on one. Maybe Talib + McCourty over the top
| Quote: | | And Dalton would feel pressure often, not having enough time to get the ball off in the first place. |
Because if there is one thing the Pats are good at it is rushing the QB on a consistent basis  |
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