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JustPlainNasty 
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Kniles Davis is a fumbling machine. _________________
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armsteeld
Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Posts: 2868 Location: In your head
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| JustPlainNasty wrote: | | Kniles Davis is a fumbling machine. |
So was Adrian and Tikki until their issues were corrected by coaching. He is a true homerun threat with all the traits that great RBs possess. He has Dwyer's size coupled with Mendenhall's speed and Rainey's hands. _________________
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SteelProven 
 Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 10978 Location: Ramstein, Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| armsteeld wrote: | | SteelProven wrote: | I'd draft Hankins, Hunt, Jenkins and Williams over Ansah and I don't get why people keep calling him a first rounder. Yes JPP was a freak of nature and only had one good statistical season. But not every player is going to mimic that and the Steelers aren't a 4-3 defense, so what Ansah has as a "potential" pass rusher won't be utilized.
Mathieu is a waste and I wouldn't touch him with a UDFA selection. The Steelers have taken to many drug users in the past. Only one of them has come back to bite the Steelers, but one is one to many.
Why move Cortez Allen to FS what has he shown or when has he even played the position. Also when is the last time the Steelers moved a player like that around other then injury. Golden played some CB in the Dallas game but that was out of necessity, but he played CB in college.
Fans are going off their rocker with some of these predictions |
There were many games were Allen was playing Safety and I feel with his range, he can be a great centerfielder. Yes he went against AJ but he had help most of the game. Honestly, he was beaten a couple of times but Troy and Ryan playing centerfielder, made Dalton's passes off target.
With Allen playing Safety, Troy and Ryan were used like ILBs or Rovers. |
Cortez Allen was one of the best nickel CBs in the league this year. Who hasn't AJ beaten that's why he's considered one of the Top 5 WRs in the league. I'll say it like this put any others teams #3 on AJ and the results won't be the same. 2 Ints and a FF Ike Taylor has never down that in his career verse anybody.
Draft a player that plays the position don't weaken your position to guess on another. CB's are the hardest position to fill and the Steelers have been fortunate enough to potentially have drafted 2 in 3 yrs. _________________
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JustPlainNasty 
Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 6366 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| armsteeld wrote: | | JustPlainNasty wrote: | | Kniles Davis is a fumbling machine. |
So was Adrian and Tikki until their issues were corrected by coaching. He is a true homerun threat with all the traits that great RBs possess. He has Dwyer's size coupled with Mendenhall's speed and Rainey's hands. |
You mean the type of coaching that Mendy & Rainey have benefited from? On the team that is second to last in fumbles/game?
Rainey's hands? _________________
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AlanFanecaFan 
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 10754 Location: Getting hammered with Jeff Reed
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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I'd take the Honey badger in the 4th round...I think he'd be fine as a slot guy who can blitz and allow different looks.
If not he can at least help out on STs which they desperately need. _________________
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JustPlainNasty 
Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 6366 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| AlanFanecaFan wrote: | I'd take the Honey badger in the 4th round...I think he'd be fine as a slot guy who can blitz and allow different looks.
If not he can at least help out on STs which they desperately need. |
I'd consider the gamble as early as the 3rd, definitely the 4th with a thorough investigation into his issues. _________________
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kysteeler 
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 814 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| JustPlainNasty wrote: | | AlanFanecaFan wrote: | I'd take the Honey badger in the 4th round...I think he'd be fine as a slot guy who can blitz and allow different looks.
If not he can at least help out on STs which they desperately need. |
I'd consider the gamble as early as the 3rd, definitely the 4th with a thorough investigation into his issues. |
I really wouldn't touch him at all |
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turtle28 
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 53420 Location: MD/DC/VA depends on the hr!
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't touch honey badger till the 4th, preferably 5th though. Nothing he does is really elite except force turnovers which is worth something but I think he'd get beaten like a drum most of the time by nfl Wrs and he doesn't have elite speed to recover like most CBs do that are successful at his size. Not only that but he didn't play a down of football last year. And don't even get me started on the off the field stuff. In some ways I think he'll be lucky to be drafted.
As for the rbs, here is my .2 IMO Niles Davis because of his injury problems might not be drafted until late. If I'm going to take any rb late with injury problems it's going to be Marcus Latimore.
So for me I'd take Latimore over Niles Davis. _________________
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jebrick
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 7133 Location: Indianapolis
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| kysteeler wrote: | | JustPlainNasty wrote: | | AlanFanecaFan wrote: | I'd take the Honey badger in the 4th round...I think he'd be fine as a slot guy who can blitz and allow different looks.
If not he can at least help out on STs which they desperately need. |
I'd consider the gamble as early as the 3rd, definitely the 4th with a thorough investigation into his issues. |
I really wouldn't touch him at all |
This. Two time loser. My bet is his career mirrors Pac-man Jones. _________________
"You build with draft choices. You find people with talents adaptable to your plans and then you teach them to do things the way we do them." - Chuck Noll |
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Chieferific 
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Watched my first VA Tech game of the year yesterday in their Bowl game against Rutgers. Junior MLB Jack Tyler was all over the field making big hits. I had not heard any coverage on him. Any of the draft gurus here have some insight. Good size and speed from what I saw. Any info would be appreciated. _________________
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treat88 
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| jebrick wrote: | | kysteeler wrote: | | JustPlainNasty wrote: | | AlanFanecaFan wrote: | I'd take the Honey badger in the 4th round...I think he'd be fine as a slot guy who can blitz and allow different looks.
If not he can at least help out on STs which they desperately need. |
I'd consider the gamble as early as the 3rd, definitely the 4th with a thorough investigation into his issues. |
I really wouldn't touch him at all |
This. Two time loser. My bet is his career mirrors Pac-man Jones. |
Thirded.
Doesnt even move the dial for me. _________________
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kysteeler 
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 814 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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My question is, if we don't resign Wallace, who should we look at in the draft?
I kinda like Terrence Williams from Baylor. |
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jebrick
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 7133 Location: Indianapolis
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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I hate taking a WR in the 1st round. It is a very bad gamble and rarely pays off. But if I were going to take one it would be Cordarrelle Patterson. _________________
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Gatoradus
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 1992 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Talking about Mike Wallace...
Which's more likely; we re-sign Mike Wallace and Todd Haley adapts to our offense's strengths more for next season and the we open up more with the playbook and actually save us draft picks for the more pressing needs.
We let Mike Wallace go, find a replacement in the draft... Who likely won't have big contribution like Mike Wallace have in the rookie season but it'll be a bigger, physical wide receiver (this is what we have been lacking badly for those years even with Hines Ward) so basically our offense will be stalling.
We let Mike Wallace go, keeping what we already have and likely... get exposed badly with the limited talents at our WR depth and without Heath Miller for possible some extended time.
At this point, from FO's perspection; we may need Mike Wallace more than he need us. I'm not suggesting either one but I sure as hell hope the FO knows what they are doing.
Now, talking about draft prospects; at beginning of season I have mentioned Shamarko Thomas as my darkhorse favorite for a rising star at position of strong safety. As of today, before the bowl game against West virginia he is ranked as 6th best safety, 76th prospect. He is blowing up the game, showed some really great disciplined hard-hitting tackles where in past he'd throw his body around like Troy Polamalu. It is safe to say he's a 2nd round prospect right now. This, of course, is before the Senior Bowl, NFL Combine, and Pro Day.
Many doesn't know of this, but Shamarko Thomas is actually an athlete freak. runs in low 4.3, has a good body build (5'10" and 210 lbs) and I didn't even mention about his leaping ability (rumored to be in 40'-ish) as he ran track and was involved with Long Jump with his former high school teammate (Justin Hunter) which was my old high school (loving this draft, 4 prospects from my old high school entering the draft, amazing).
Point being, if he does rise to 1st round, would I want him even if I have pimped him hard? No.
We don't need a safety in 1st round, especially somebody who will be on bench for first few years before TBA of either starters' retirement or being let go. It's good to keep eye on this kid, if he's there in 2nd... you take him. He's much more polished than any strong safety prospect in this draft believe it or not. To go with his athleticism, teams will love this kid who is a great leader, a warrior, and has production to back up him. |
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at23steelers
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