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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject: Pro Bowlers Reply with quote

Well, six Ravens were named to the Pro Bowl. I'll just do a quick analysis:

Ray Rice - No-brainer, really.

Vonta Leach - Glad he was picked. Some could argue that Marcel Reece deserved it, but Vonta was the right selection IMO.

Jacoby Jones - No-brainer for special teams.

Marshal Yanda - Another good selection.

Haloti Ngata - Eh... While Ngata was his usual self at the beginning of the year, his overall play has dipped (aside from this past week, of course). I'll give him a pass since he has been injury-plagued once again, but I think Wilkerson was more deserving.

Ed Reed - So many more deserving guys here. Weddle, Jones, Clark, Byrd, etc.

Overall, glad we sent as many as we did. Would've liked to have seen Pollard make it, but oh well.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pollard is a 1st alternate, I believe.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats to them. All excellent choices.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DontTazeMeBro wrote:
Congrats to them. All excellent choices.


Yep. Agreed.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Ed deserved it, but everyone else that got selected did. Ngata to a lesser extent
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed played great this year. No idea why anyone is complaining.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DontTazeMeBro wrote:
Ed played great this year. No idea why anyone is complaining.


He's been solid in coverage, but the man can't tackle at all anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overall, who really cares? The Pro Bowl is a joke
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DontTazeMeBro wrote:
Ed played great this year. No idea why anyone is complaining.


This is a joke, right? There's no way you're serious.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats to all. Hopefully they'll be getting a game check and doing something more important the following week. Please, God, PLEASE!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SnA ExclusiVe wrote:
DontTazeMeBro wrote:
Ed played great this year. No idea why anyone is complaining.


This is a joke, right? There's no way you're serious.


Be honest with yourself, were he a Seahawk you'd be pimping his 4 ints HARD. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sp6488 wrote:
SnA ExclusiVe wrote:
DontTazeMeBro wrote:
Ed played great this year. No idea why anyone is complaining.


This is a joke, right? There's no way you're serious.


Be honest with yourself, were he a Seahawk you'd be pimping his 4 ints HARD. Wink


Forget the 4 interceptions, we have allowed only 14 passing TDs this year. That's only 1 more than the league leader, and just as many as the vaunted Seahawks secondary. This is with our defense being incredibly banged up in the secondary, among other places. Over a two year span, no one comes close to how few passing TD's we allowed.

Unless you want to attribute all that to Cary Williams', or Bernard Pollard's coverage skills, then give Ed Reed his due credit. Ed Reed is the back end of our defense and his job is taking away the big plays in the passing game, and despite taking some risks trying too hard to make a play, he does that extremely well. I could care less how awful he looks tackling and even less how he looks in run support, when he does that so well.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wackywabbit wrote:
sp6488 wrote:
SnA ExclusiVe wrote:
DontTazeMeBro wrote:
Ed played great this year. No idea why anyone is complaining.


This is a joke, right? There's no way you're serious.


Be honest with yourself, were he a Seahawk you'd be pimping his 4 ints HARD. Wink


Forget the 4 interceptions, we have allowed only 14 passing TDs this year. That's only 1 more than the league leader, and just as many as the vaunted Seahawks secondary. This is with our defense being incredibly banged up in the secondary, among other places. Over a two year span, no one comes close to how few passing TD's we allowed.

Unless you want to attribute all that to Cary Williams', or Bernard Pollard's coverage skills, then give Ed Reed his due credit. Ed Reed is the back end of our defense and his job is taking away the big plays in the passing game, and despite taking some risks trying too hard to make a play, he does that extremely well. I could care less how awful he looks tackling and even less how he looks in run support, when he does that so well.

But TDs aren't everything. That's not to say I disagree about Ed's level this year, but you must also check the yards given through the air and YAC if you want to judge a secondary.
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Benmir wrote:
wackywabbit wrote:
sp6488 wrote:
SnA ExclusiVe wrote:
DontTazeMeBro wrote:
Ed played great this year. No idea why anyone is complaining.


This is a joke, right? There's no way you're serious.


Be honest with yourself, were he a Seahawk you'd be pimping his 4 ints HARD. Wink


Forget the 4 interceptions, we have allowed only 14 passing TDs this year. That's only 1 more than the league leader, and just as many as the vaunted Seahawks secondary. This is with our defense being incredibly banged up in the secondary, among other places. Over a two year span, no one comes close to how few passing TD's we allowed.

Unless you want to attribute all that to Cary Williams', or Bernard Pollard's coverage skills, then give Ed Reed his due credit. Ed Reed is the back end of our defense and his job is taking away the big plays in the passing game, and despite taking some risks trying too hard to make a play, he does that extremely well. I could care less how awful he looks tackling and even less how he looks in run support, when he does that so well.

But TDs aren't everything. That's not to say I disagree about Ed's level this year, but you must also check the yards given through the air and YAC if you want to judge a secondary.


True, but I focused on TDs since those somewhat correlate with the number of times the back-end (Reed) of our defense has failed. Just watching the number of times we get burned for those back-breaking big plays in the passing games vs what I see in other games across the nfl, it's clear that we still have something on defense, despite the loss of our top cover corners and linebackers and a pass rush that has been anemic at times.

I'm certainly not comparing our secondary as a whole to the top secondaries in the league, this year. Especially not with Webb out.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is also the trap of making the connection of "not as good as he once was " = "sucks"
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