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bearsaddict
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| topwop1 wrote: | | bearsaddict wrote: | | chisoxguy7 wrote: | | IronMike84 wrote: | | It might be a good idea to try to lock him up this offseason. If he has a monster season next year, it's only going to drive his price tag higher. |
He's good, but does anyone else think he might struggle elsewhere? |
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Well he's not built to play in a 3-4 so mark any teams who run that type of D of the list of potential suitors. He's also kind of limited to a one-gap type 4-3 defense. He's still not great in run support so keep that in mind. |
He wouldn't go to a 3-4 team because he is a 4-3 DT. So the answer is still...no. He would succeed on any 4-3 team he would go to.
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DaMike
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| bearsaddict wrote: | | topwop1 wrote: | | bearsaddict wrote: | | chisoxguy7 wrote: | | IronMike84 wrote: | | It might be a good idea to try to lock him up this offseason. If he has a monster season next year, it's only going to drive his price tag higher. |
He's good, but does anyone else think he might struggle elsewhere? |
No. |
Well he's not built to play in a 3-4 so mark any teams who run that type of D of the list of potential suitors. He's also kind of limited to a one-gap type 4-3 defense. He's still not great in run support so keep that in mind. |
He wouldn't go to a 3-4 team because he is a 4-3 DT. So the answer is still...no. He would succeed on any 4-3 team he would go to. |
He can play in a 4-3 or a 3-4. Much like Cullen Jenkins and Darnell Dockett. |
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bearsaddict
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| DaMike wrote: | | bearsaddict wrote: | | topwop1 wrote: | | bearsaddict wrote: | | chisoxguy7 wrote: | | IronMike84 wrote: | | It might be a good idea to try to lock him up this offseason. If he has a monster season next year, it's only going to drive his price tag higher. |
He's good, but does anyone else think he might struggle elsewhere? |
No. |
Well he's not built to play in a 3-4 so mark any teams who run that type of D of the list of potential suitors. He's also kind of limited to a one-gap type 4-3 defense. He's still not great in run support so keep that in mind. |
He wouldn't go to a 3-4 team because he is a 4-3 DT. So the answer is still...no. He would succeed on any 4-3 team he would go to. |
He can play in a 4-3 or a 3-4. Much like Cullen Jenkins and Darnell Dockett. |
I disagree. I think he is a 4-3 guy all the way.
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Superman(DH23)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| bearsaddict wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | bearsaddict wrote: | | topwop1 wrote: | | bearsaddict wrote: | | chisoxguy7 wrote: | | IronMike84 wrote: | | It might be a good idea to try to lock him up this offseason. If he has a monster season next year, it's only going to drive his price tag higher. |
He's good, but does anyone else think he might struggle elsewhere? |
No. |
Well he's not built to play in a 3-4 so mark any teams who run that type of D of the list of potential suitors. He's also kind of limited to a one-gap type 4-3 defense. He's still not great in run support so keep that in mind. |
He wouldn't go to a 3-4 team because he is a 4-3 DT. So the answer is still...no. He would succeed on any 4-3 team he would go to. |
He can play in a 4-3 or a 3-4. Much like Cullen Jenkins and Darnell Dockett. |
I disagree. I think he is a 4-3 guy all the way. |
As I pointed out earlier, he could play DE in 1-gap 3-4 a' la the Texans and Cowboys. But he's not a 2-gap player.
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Bowler1215
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We need to sign him, keep young blood no the D-line. You guys think we'll resign Wootton as well? He's had a good year this year anyway.
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chisoxguy7
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Bowler1215 wrote: | | We need to sign him, keep young blood no the D-line. You guys think we'll resign Wootton as well? He's had a good year this year anyway. |
Depends on what he commands $$$-wise. |
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Sr7252
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| Even if it's high..we should pay because these older guys are on the way out. We need as many young guys to play for us so they gain confidence from playing alongside such great D players. |
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AZBearsFan
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Bowler1215 wrote: | | We need to sign him, keep young blood no the D-line. You guys think we'll resign Wootton as well? He's had a good year this year anyway. |
Wootton is under contract next year for $575K, so he will be on the team next year. Personally even though he deserves a pay raise after this year I don't know that we can afford to give him one yet with the rest of our needs. I think his development may mean Idonije isn't back next year unless he takes a minimum type deal (which he has done before). I think everyone expects Shea to take on a bigger role next year at DE and Peppers isn't going anywhere although he probably has to restructure his deal. All of that, of course, assumes no defensive scheme change.
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Superman(DH23)
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| AZBearsFan wrote: | | Bowler1215 wrote: | | We need to sign him, keep young blood no the D-line. You guys think we'll resign Wootton as well? He's had a good year this year anyway. |
Wootton is under contract next year for $575K, so he will be on the team next year. Personally even though he deserves a pay raise after this year I don't know that we can afford to give him one yet with the rest of our needs. I think his development may mean Idonije isn't back next year unless he takes a minimum type deal (which he has done before). I think everyone expects Shea to take on a bigger role next year at DE and Peppers isn't going anywhere although he probably has to restructure his deal. All of that, of course, assumes no defensive scheme change. |
Wootton has to play out his last year, too much injury history, has to show it wasn't a 1 time thing and come back and do it while starting the whole year. If he does it all again next year and gets 10+ sacks he'll be in line for a massive payday.
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WindyCity
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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This is how I see the DL shaping up,
Peppers, restructures his deal for some cap relief.
Wootton, plays into his final year and if he is starting and playing well again signs a 4 year 18 million/7 guaranteed. Similar contact to the Vikings Brian Robison.
Shea McClellin, gets stronger and plays more.
Izzy Idonije, stays on a 1 year 1.5 million dollar deal because he does not want to leave and he is awesome depth.
Henry Melton, resigns for 5 years 37.5 million/18 guaranteed and is the starting DT.
Stephen Paea, stays as the NT.
Nate Collins, stays as the backup 3 technique maybe gets 1 year added to his deal.
Matt Toenia, he doesn't make a lot but he was injured and inactive a lot and may be released.
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DaMike
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| WindyCity wrote: | This is how I see the DL shaping up,
Peppers, restructures his deal for some cap relief.
Wootton, plays into his final year and if he is starting and playing well again signs a 4 year 18 million/7 guaranteed. Similar contact to the Vikings Brian Robison.
Shea McClellin, gets stronger and plays more.
Izzy Idonije, stays on a 1 year 1.5 million dollar deal because he does not want to leave and he is awesome depth.
Henry Melton, resigns for 5 years 37.5 million/18 guaranteed and is the starting DT.
Stephen Paea, stays as the NT.
Nate Collins, stays as the backup 3 technique maybe gets 1 year added to his deal.
Matt Toenia, he doesn't make a lot but he was injured and inactive a lot and may be released. |
I think we have to bring in another DT. When Melton went down that really hurt us. We need some depth there. I don't trust Collins and Toe as our backups. Idonije can help there on occassion but he isn't consistent and his arrow is pointing down. |
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DaMike
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| AZBearsFan wrote: | | Bowler1215 wrote: | | We need to sign him, keep young blood no the D-line. You guys think we'll resign Wootton as well? He's had a good year this year anyway. |
Wootton is under contract next year for $575K, so he will be on the team next year. Personally even though he deserves a pay raise after this year I don't know that we can afford to give him one yet with the rest of our needs. I think his development may mean Idonije isn't back next year unless he takes a minimum type deal (which he has done before). I think everyone expects Shea to take on a bigger role next year at DE and Peppers isn't going anywhere although he probably has to restructure his deal. All of that, of course, assumes no defensive scheme change. |
His health is another reason I would wait to resign him. He's been hurt so much I'd wait as long as we can with him.
We almost resigned Knox long term. Different situations obviously but if we resigned Knox and he gets hurt like he did that could really hurt us. |
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