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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The controversy continues to brew over the validity of the NFL Pro Bowl game. The NFL Commissioner, Roger Goodell, has been very critical and vocal in his discontent regarding the NFL players' performance in the game. Earlier in 2012 the NFL Commissioner went on record stating that he is seriously considering cancelling the Pro Bowl permanently, do to poor performance by the players.


Isn't Goodell the one who comes up with the rules for the game?

Why does he...
-Make 3-4 LBs play in a 4-3 defense at LB.
-Make blitzes illegal

Then expect those same players to play at a Pro Bowl level, or he'll cancel the game?! Is he serious?!

That is the biggest gripe I have with the Pro Bowl. It is idiotic to put Ware and Matthews, among others, in the LB category, and then tell them they can't rush the quarterback. That is what they get paid to do, not to drop back in coverage.

Change the rules of the game or change the positional voting, and the game will be more competitive.
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This article from last January pretty much sums up my thoughts on the "game": http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/page/jackson-120125/the-nfl-pro-bowl-serves-no-purpose-needs-one
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Felton, we've come a long way from this summer: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=492608

For all the talk of last offseason's free agency, no one brings up the signing of Jerome Felton. That addition was as big as any this year.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klomp wrote:
vike daddy wrote:
The controversy continues to brew over the validity of the NFL Pro Bowl game. The NFL Commissioner, Roger Goodell, has been very critical and vocal in his discontent regarding the NFL players' performance in the game. Earlier in 2012 the NFL Commissioner went on record stating that he is seriously considering cancelling the Pro Bowl permanently, do to poor performance by the players.


Isn't Goodell the one who comes up with the rules for the game?

Why does he...
-Make 3-4 LBs play in a 4-3 defense at LB.
-Make blitzes illegal

Then expect those same players to play at a Pro Bowl level, or he'll cancel the game?! Is he serious?!

That is the biggest gripe I have with the Pro Bowl. It is idiotic to put Ware and Matthews, among others, in the LB category, and then tell them they can't rush the quarterback. That is what they get paid to do, not to drop back in coverage.

Change the rules of the game or change the positional voting, and the game will be more competitive.


Why do people always put odd stuff like this on Goodell, never quite figured that out. All these rules were in place prior to him becoming commish and if the rules were different, such if LB's could blitz, your starting QB's for the pro bowl would be Christian Ponder and Blaine Gabbert cause no one else would want to do it. The whole game is a joke, and if people want to put anything on Goodell, put it on him for getting it right when he said the game should be cancelled permanently.
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Why do people always put odd stuff like this on Goodell, never quite figured that out. All these rules were in place prior to him becoming commish and if the rules were different, such if LB's could blitz, your starting QB's for the pro bowl would be Christian Ponder and Blaine Gabbert cause no one else would want to do it. The whole game is a joke, and if people want to put anything on Goodell, put it on him for getting it right when he said the game should be cancelled permanently.


Not putting it all on Goodell, but as commissioner he is the guy who has the power to change the rules.
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There are a few rookies I'm surprised didn't get in. Granted I haven't seen the alternate lists, but How Matt Kalil, Harrison Smith, Janoris Jenkins, Casey Hayward, and Bobby Wagner got left off is a joke.
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Klomp wrote:
The Gnat wrote:
Why do people always put odd stuff like this on Goodell, never quite figured that out. All these rules were in place prior to him becoming commish and if the rules were different, such if LB's could blitz, your starting QB's for the pro bowl would be Christian Ponder and Blaine Gabbert cause no one else would want to do it. The whole game is a joke, and if people want to put anything on Goodell, put it on him for getting it right when he said the game should be cancelled permanently.


Not putting it all on Goodell, but as commissioner he is the guy who has the power to change the rules.


He doesn't everything thing like that he can suggest to various committees but he doesn't have the power to himself change rules.
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Eight teams had no Pro Bowl players: Carolina, Philadelphia and St. Louis in the NFC, Tennessee, Buffalo, Jacksonville, San Diego and Oakland in the AFC.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/50300637/ns/sports-nfl/
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a question for you smart guys -

if fan voting only accounts for 1/3 of the decision to send a player to the Pro Bowl, then why don't the other 2/3'ers override the bad decisions, like Saturday?
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a question for you smart guys -

if fan voting only accounts for 1/3 of the decision to send a player to the Pro Bowl, then why don't the other 2/3'ers override the bad decisions, like Saturday?


Because another 1/3 of the vote goes to the players and lots of times their votes are about as intelligent as the fans, considering they don't exactly have the time to follow other players either. Their vote goes on name recognition as well.
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disaacs wrote:
another 1/3 of the vote goes to the players...

say no more.

they're voting for the guys who throw the best parties in Hawaii then.

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Probowl should just be skill games.
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HighHopes wrote:
Probowl should just be skill games.


Just skill games? No.

But they should add some, much like how MLB has the Home Run Derby and NBA has the Slam Dunk Contest.
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Probowl should just be skill games.

create something like a decathalon event that all guys could participate in and that would highlight both strength (for linemen) and agility and accuracy.

find the NFL's top overall athletes that way.

oh, and include a basic spelling and logic test too, maybe memory. they did go to college, after all. if they came out stupid, then that gets shown too.
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The All Pro selections have been made. The NFC North represents 13 of the 22 positions.

Right now three NFC North teams are in the running for the playoffs.

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