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justwinbaby81


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOCLEW 28 wrote:
bitty wrote:
After careful consideration and going over the top draft prospects. I came to the conclusion that if the Raiders can't trade back they have to select Warmack. He can start right away and play at a high level. He can solidify the right side of the line for ten years. The rest of prospects have question marks. The Raiders can't afford to wait a couple years for someone to gain weight or to develop skills to be a every down player.

I know it's a complete 180 from what I've posted in the past but I was wrong.


I'm digging that 180. All kidding aside I think he is the best prospect in this draft and I would have no problem at all with the team taking him that high. His dominance was evident all season long.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Wort. Forgot about him possibly coming out. I think he'll become a solid player in the league given some time and the right situation.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justwinbaby81 wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
bitty wrote:
After careful consideration and going over the top draft prospects. I came to the conclusion that if the Raiders can't trade back they have to select Warmack. He can start right away and play at a high level. He can solidify the right side of the line for ten years. The rest of prospects have question marks. The Raiders can't afford to wait a couple years for someone to gain weight or to develop skills to be a every down player.

I know it's a complete 180 from what I've posted in the past but I was wrong.


I'm digging that 180. All kidding aside I think he is the best prospect in this draft and I would have no problem at all with the team taking him that high. His dominance was evident all season long.



Laughing One believer at a time, we are making headway.


One of us!! One of us!! One of us!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chali21 wrote:
justwinbaby81 wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
bitty wrote:
After careful consideration and going over the top draft prospects. I came to the conclusion that if the Raiders can't trade back they have to select Warmack. He can start right away and play at a high level. He can solidify the right side of the line for ten years. The rest of prospects have question marks. The Raiders can't afford to wait a couple years for someone to gain weight or to develop skills to be a every down player.

I know it's a complete 180 from what I've posted in the past but I was wrong.


I'm digging that 180. All kidding aside I think he is the best prospect in this draft and I would have no problem at all with the team taking him that high. His dominance was evident all season long.



Laughing One believer at a time, we are making headway.


One of us!! One of us!! One of us!!!


Do you guys have a secret handshake?
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bitty wrote:
Chali21 wrote:
justwinbaby81 wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
bitty wrote:
After careful consideration and going over the top draft prospects. I came to the conclusion that if the Raiders can't trade back they have to select Warmack. He can start right away and play at a high level. He can solidify the right side of the line for ten years. The rest of prospects have question marks. The Raiders can't afford to wait a couple years for someone to gain weight or to develop skills to be a every down player.

I know it's a complete 180 from what I've posted in the past but I was wrong.


I'm digging that 180. All kidding aside I think he is the best prospect in this draft and I would have no problem at all with the team taking him that high. His dominance was evident all season long.



Laughing One believer at a time, we are making headway.


One of us!! One of us!! One of us!!!


Do you guys have a secret handshake?


Yes I'd tell you but then I'd have to kill you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive said all along that i would have no problem with Warmack being our pick. If you look at all the players they all have flaws. i believe he can be dominant and just because he is a guard that lowers his status. who cares, draft him and put him next to JV and Wiz and were good for next decade. build through the trenches.
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devin taylor looked pretty good last night. Was dominate in the shrine game.
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Interesting read on Jarvis Jones. Sounds like he isnt a 100% guy.

"Published Jan. 18, 2013
By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

Georgia outside linebacker Jarvis Jones had been one of the most dominant football players in college football the past two seasons. He's destroyed the SEC for those two years, as many consider him to be one of the most talented players in the 2013 NFL Draft class. Jones is on top of my 2013 NFL Draft Big Board, as well as ESPN's Mel Kiper's.

However, after speaking with scouts at the East-West Shrine Game who have Jones in their territory, they say they expect Jones to slide down and fall out of the top five next April.

The scouts said there are a few reasons that could add up to Jones falling into the 6-10 range. First of all, the scouts said that Jones is not a good workout guy. They don't believe that he is going to test well or stand out in the Combine or pre-draft workouts. Area scouts who cover Georgia say that Jones is not a weight-room guy. He doesn't put a lot of work in during the week, but would show up on Saturday and dominate naturally.

They said that Jones is a good guy and a good teammate, but just isn't a tireless worker. As one scout said, "Don't get me wrong, if you watch his tapes you'll say he is worth being the No. 1 rated player and going in the top five of the draft. You can watch him on Saturdays and see that this guy is animal. He's clearly the best player on the field, but not a guy that you'll be in love with during the week. Add in the medical concern and with the testing, and I think he's going to slide some on Draft Day."

Jones' medical condition is a spinal stenosis that happened as a freshman at USC. On a routine hit against Oregon, Jones sustained the injury. A specialist told him he would be fine, but USC's doctors wouldn't clear him and told him he should retire from football. After transferring to Georgia, Jones broke out as one of the best players in college football.

As a junior, Jones had 85 tackles, 14.5 sacks, 24.5 tackles for a loss, seven forced fumbles, three passes broken up and one interception in 2012. Jones had massive performances against Florida and Missouri with consistently good outings all year. Jones led the nation in sacks and for the second straight season had the most sacks in the SEC.

In 2011, he tied for the second-most sacks in the nation, 13.5. He also had 70 tackles with 19.5 tackles for a loss and two forced fumbles.

Jones could be a classic example of teams overthinking the draft process. Over the history of the draft, good players have slid because of an unnecessary medical concerns or not working out well at the Combine. If Jones plays in the NFL like he did at Georgia, he'll reward whomever takes him on Draft Day with plenty of teams feeling regret. "
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TiberiusRising wrote:
Interesting read on Jarvis Jones. Sounds like he isnt a 100% guy.

"Published Jan. 18, 2013
By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

Georgia outside linebacker Jarvis Jones had been one of the most dominant football players in college football the past two seasons. He's destroyed the SEC for those two years, as many consider him to be one of the most talented players in the 2013 NFL Draft class. Jones is on top of my 2013 NFL Draft Big Board, as well as ESPN's Mel Kiper's.

However, after speaking with scouts at the East-West Shrine Game who have Jones in their territory, they say they expect Jones to slide down and fall out of the top five next April.

The scouts said there are a few reasons that could add up to Jones falling into the 6-10 range. First of all, the scouts said that Jones is not a good workout guy. They don't believe that he is going to test well or stand out in the Combine or pre-draft workouts. Area scouts who cover Georgia say that Jones is not a weight-room guy. He doesn't put a lot of work in during the week, but would show up on Saturday and dominate naturally.

They said that Jones is a good guy and a good teammate, but just isn't a tireless worker. As one scout said, "Don't get me wrong, if you watch his tapes you'll say he is worth being the No. 1 rated player and going in the top five of the draft. You can watch him on Saturdays and see that this guy is animal. He's clearly the best player on the field, but not a guy that you'll be in love with during the week. Add in the medical concern and with the testing, and I think he's going to slide some on Draft Day."

Jones' medical condition is a spinal stenosis that happened as a freshman at USC. On a routine hit against Oregon, Jones sustained the injury. A specialist told him he would be fine, but USC's doctors wouldn't clear him and told him he should retire from football. After transferring to Georgia, Jones broke out as one of the best players in college football.

As a junior, Jones had 85 tackles, 14.5 sacks, 24.5 tackles for a loss, seven forced fumbles, three passes broken up and one interception in 2012. Jones had massive performances against Florida and Missouri with consistently good outings all year. Jones led the nation in sacks and for the second straight season had the most sacks in the SEC.

In 2011, he tied for the second-most sacks in the nation, 13.5. He also had 70 tackles with 19.5 tackles for a loss and two forced fumbles.

Jones could be a classic example of teams overthinking the draft process. Over the history of the draft, good players have slid because of an unnecessary medical concerns or not working out well at the Combine. If Jones plays in the NFL like he did at Georgia, he'll reward whomever takes him on Draft Day with plenty of teams feeling regret. "

That was a terrific article thank you for sharing & i wouldn't mind the raiders taking jones if we don't trade back... moore or jones should be the #3 pick
Jones can work as an NFL player with coaching and motivation if he wants to be an NFL player he will have to work day in and day out & i believe he can be that player i highly doubt he will be a jamarcus russell. even with his mild case of spinal stenosis he can last in the NFL 5-9 years at least. as long as he puts in the work in the transition to the NFL i believe anyone that picks him will benefit huge
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jones not being a weight room guy has more to do with his Back problem. You cant deny the production he has had in two years at Georgia. He is a football player not a work out warrior something that Oakland use to look to much into. Jones loves the game of football unlike a lot of these guys. To have that problem and still have the urger and hunger to play is amazing. He is a football player we need football players like him not some worl out warrior who puts up amazing numbers at the combine to only fail in the NFL.
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agarcia34 wrote:
Jones not being a weight room guy has more to do with his Back problem. You cant deny the production he has had in two years at Georgia. He is a football player not a work out warrior something that Oakland use to look to much into. Jones loves the game of football unlike a lot of these guys. To have that problem and still have the urger and hunger to play is amazing. He is a football player we need football players like him not some worl out warrior who puts up amazing numbers at the combine to only fail in the NFL.
+1 yeah he is an amazing football player and loves the game and he will be great in the NFL. Jones will only get better and i believe he will be ready for the transition to the NFL day one he loves the game and he isn't bruce cambell combine bench press warrior his football skills are amazing but i still think he will shine in the combine as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he can't put in the work in the weight room how is he going to be able to keep up with the bigger and stronger opposition in the NFL? Especially with an injury like that? I like him, but I don't want us to be the team to commit to him.
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If he can't put in the work in the weight room how is he going to be able to keep up with the bigger and stronger opposition in the NFL? Especially with an injury like that? I like him, but I don't want us to be the team to commit to him.


A former nfl player once said college weight rooms are to grow, and nfl weight rooms are to maintain. I don't think that'd be too big of an issue. If jones back checks out he is my second rated pass rusher behind Werner.
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Werner has that McClain syndrome. Jogging I hate that run ur tail of when ur chasing the play dont jog.
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agarcia34 wrote:
Werner has that McClain syndrome. Jogging I hate that run ur tail of when ur chasing the play dont jog.


I noticed that too. Big time turn off. Part of why I prefer Moore over him again. The 2 guys I would like the most in this draft for us are probably Chance Warmack or Dion Jordan.
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