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turtle28
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 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject: Will we lose Rob Jackson in FA? |
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My mom was just asking me about Orakpo's replacement. So in was telling her all about Rob Jackson.
Then, she asked if he was a free agent in 2013 because if he was and Orakpo comes back don't you think he'd want to go somewhere else and have a chance to start?
So, that made me look up and see that he was a free agent this offseason.
I'm pretty sure some team like the jets or any team that needs a pass rusher will offer him a contract bigger than we would and a chance to start.
So are people of the impression that i have, that this will be Rob Jackson's last year in DC?
I say time to sign Antwan Barnes as a FA like I wanted to do back in 2010 when's the ravens surprisingly cut him and then Philly picked him up but cut him.
All he's done is have 18.5 sacks in the past 3 season while seeing limited time as a situational pass rushing specialist in Sd.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Man, I'm not at all up on the rules ,,but seems we could make him a qualifying offer to make him "restricted".. Woz , Footy need to explain this one --options !! |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Would LOVE to keep him
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turtle28
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| RSkinGM wrote: | | Man, I'm not at all up on the rules ,,but seems we could make him a qualifying offer to make him "restricted".. Woz , Footy need to explain this one --options !! |
http://mobile.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/rob-jackson/
he's not restricted. Restricted FAs are those coming off their first contracts with the team that drafted them. He's been re-signed by us- last year. He's unrestricted in 2013.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_free_agent
| Quote: | | In the National Football League, a restricted free agent (RFA) is one with three accrued seasons of service, who has received a "qualifying" offer (a salary level predetermined by the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the league and its players) from his current club. He can negotiate with any club through a certain date. If the restricted free agent accepts an offer sheet from a new club, his old club has "right of first refusal," a seven-day period in which it may match the offer and retain him, or choose not to match the offer, in which case it may receive one or more draft picks for the upcoming draft from the player's new club. If an offer sheet is not executed, the player's rights revert to his old club the day after negotiations must end. |
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mike23md
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Restricted free agents -- three-year players with expiring contracts -- can receive offers from other teams, but the incumbent team has a right to match. Should it not match, it is entitled to draft-choice compensation corresponding to the level of tender placed on the player.
Most likely Rob Jackson could be tendered a 5th rounder.
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turtle28
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| mike23md wrote: | Restricted free agents -- three-year players with expiring contracts -- can receive offers from other teams, but the incumbent team has a right to match. Should it not match, it is entitled to draft-choice compensation corresponding to the level of tender placed on the player.
Most likely Rob Jackson could be tendered a 5th rounder. |
he's not restricted from everything I've researched. He's on his 2nd contract with the redskins
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turtle28
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I'm not sure why teams like Buffalo, NYJ, Jacksonville, Tenn, Indy, Oak, dal, Minny, Det, Atl, NO, and Tampa wouldn't be interests in improving their pass rush
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we will get him a deal, or let someone else overpay.
we developed this kid. I'm positive our FO knows exactly what he brings and what he's worth. I also see us re-signing him because I don' t see him getting a lot of attention from other teams.
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| turtle28 wrote: | | I'm not sure why teams like Buffalo, NYJ, Jacksonville, Tenn, Indy, Oak, dal, Minny, Det, Atl, NO, and Tampa wouldn't be interests in improving their pass rush |
Is he really that great of a pass rusher though? He's serviceable there but IMO his best qualities are more in run defense and coverage. He's more of an all around quality player that's his value. If he were to sign elsewhere he'd be better off playing across from a superior pass rusher while his game could strengthen the other parts of the defense. |
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turtle28
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| MKnight82 wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | | I'm not sure why teams like Buffalo, NYJ, Jacksonville, Tenn, Indy, Oak, dal, Minny, Det, Atl, NO, and Tampa wouldn't be interests in improving their pass rush |
Is he really that great of a pass rusher though? He's serviceable there but IMO his best qualities are more in run defense and coverage. He's more of an all around quality player that's his value. If he were to sign elsewhere he'd be better off playing across from a superior pass rusher while his game could strengthen the other parts of the defense. |
he has 5 sacks in 12 games started. he's had a sack in 3 straight games.
You are right he is not a dynamic pass rusher but I'd say he's an upgrade at 4-3 DE or 3-4 OlB for all the teams listed.
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If I were Shanahan/Allen, I'd tell him to look at what he can get on the open market but to at least see if we could give a matching or comparable contract. If we choose not to match, we wish him well with whatever team he signs on with ... well, perhaps not the Eagles or Cowboys.
All in all, I have to believe he's going to move on after this year. He's played well in a contract year and he knows if he stays here, he's almost guaranteed to be coming off the bench yet again. He probably won't command top dollar(*), but I could see him going somewhere to start. Given that he is a former seventh round draft pick, this is arguably his one shot to get a "big time" contract (relative to the league minimum he's been making). He'd be a fool to pass up the opportunity.
(*) Right now, Rotoworld has him as the seventh best rush linebacker behind Connor Barwin, Anthony Spencer, Paul Kruger, Shaun Phillips, Victor Butler, and Antwan Barnes. Note that this particular ranking is Rotoworld's, not mine. Specifically, this is their ranking of "players ... ranked in order of how [Rotoworld's sees] them being valued on the open market." Source: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/42077/309/nfl-free-agent-master-list-13 |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Will we lose Rob Jackson in FA? |
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| turtle28 wrote: | I say time to sign Antwan Barnes as a FA like I wanted to do back in 2010 when's the ravens surprisingly cut him and then Philly picked him up but cut him.
All he's done is have 18.5 sacks in the past 3 season while seeing limited time as a situational pass rushing specialist in Sd. |
Barnes is also coming off of IR due to a hamstring injury he suffered in week 9 and re-injured in week 13. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4400/Antwan-Barnes |
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turtle28
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| Woz wrote: | If I were Shanahan/Allen, I'd tell him to look at what he can get on the open market but to at least see if we could give a matching or comparable contract. If we choose not to match, we wish him well with whatever team he signs on with ... well, perhaps not the Eagles or Cowboys.
All in all, I have to believe he's going to move on after this year. He's played well in a contract year and he knows if he stays here, he's almost guaranteed to be coming off the bench yet again. He probably won't command top dollar(*), but I could see him going somewhere to start. Given that he is a former seventh round draft pick, this is arguably his one shot to get a "big time" contract (relative to the league minimum he's been making). He'd be a fool to pass up the opportunity.
(*) Right now, Rotoworld has him as the seventh best rush linebacker behind Connor Barwin, Anthony Spencer, Paul Kruger, Shaun Phillips, Victor Butler, and Antwan Barnes. Note that this particular ranking is Rotoworld's, not mine. Specifically, this is their ranking of "players ... ranked in order of how [Rotoworld's sees] them being valued on the open market." Source: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/42077/309/nfl-free-agent-master-list-13 |
good point Woz. I'd agree with Rotoworlds rankings or say its about right. I hope we don't lose Rob but like you I think he'll get better offers and a chance to start somewhere else and since Orakpo will be back next year we can't give him that same guarantee.
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couldn't we place a tender on him?
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