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justo


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Am Rodgers wrote:
I think its more likely we trade Finley than Jennings.
EDIT: Thought you said tag. :votes Justis is stupid:
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.

2012, yes. 2013???
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChaRisMa wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.

2012, yes. 2013???
Caps roll over now, right?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justo wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.

2012, yes. 2013???
Caps roll over now, right?


Up to a certain point yes and I'm pretty sure 7 mil is under that cap.

Then individual contracts coming off the books, guys like Jennings, Finley, Woodson, or Driver could reduce that number to. After that guys with potential for extension like Rodgers, Raji, and Matthews current cap number as well.

That would be a list of the most useful information IMO. I'm sure it's all out there but it would be nice to keep all of that info on some sort of forum resource maybe.

Any ambitious volunteers?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spilltray wrote:
justo wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.

2012, yes. 2013???
Caps roll over now, right?


Up to a certain point yes and I'm pretty sure 7 mil is under that cap.

Then individual contracts coming off the books, guys like Jennings, Finley, Woodson, or Driver could reduce that number to. After that guys with potential for extension like Rodgers, Raji, and Matthews current cap number as well.

That would be a list of the most useful information IMO. I'm sure it's all out there but it would be nice to keep all of that info on some sort of forum resource maybe.

Any ambitious volunteers?
I'm down. Do we know our dead cap numbers right meow? Who are we still paying off?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question: one time escalator clause. Is it exactly what it sounds like? Should I assume players do workouts/get roster bonuses/hit incentives?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justo wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.

2012, yes. 2013???
Caps roll over now, right?


yes it rolls over but the cap isn't expected to go up much.....

One thought found interesting in the WSJ...they spoke of Hawk gone next year and giving Jones a new contract, as he would be cheaper and plays all 3 downs, whereas hawk comes out on passing downs. that would open up some money also. but what got me thinking is if they go to get rid of him (he's approaching the 30 mark) maybe they could use him in a trade to move up in some round of the draft?
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Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.

2012, yes. 2013???
Caps roll over now, right?


yes it rolls over but the cap isn't expected to go up much.....

One thought found interesting in the WSJ...they spoke of Hawk gone next year and giving Jones a new contract, as he would be cheaper and plays all 3 downs, whereas hawk comes out on passing downs. that would open up some money also. but what got me thinking is if they go to get rid of him (he's approaching the 30 mark) maybe they could use him in a trade to move up in some round of the draft?
We'd be paying Hawk 1.6 million a year for three years to not be a Packer, though.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justo wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.

2012, yes. 2013???
Caps roll over now, right?


yes it rolls over but the cap isn't expected to go up much.....

One thought found interesting in the WSJ...they spoke of Hawk gone next year and giving Jones a new contract, as he would be cheaper and plays all 3 downs, whereas hawk comes out on passing downs. that would open up some money also. but what got me thinking is if they go to get rid of him (he's approaching the 30 mark) maybe they could use him in a trade to move up in some round of the draft?
We'd be paying Hawk 1.6 million a year for three years to not be a Packer, though.


Not sure myself. the article only said he's due 5.45 mil in salary and bonuses next year....
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Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.

2012, yes. 2013???
Caps roll over now, right?


yes it rolls over but the cap isn't expected to go up much.....

One thought found interesting in the WSJ...they spoke of Hawk gone next year and giving Jones a new contract, as he would be cheaper and plays all 3 downs, whereas hawk comes out on passing downs. that would open up some money also. but what got me thinking is if they go to get rid of him (he's approaching the 30 mark) maybe they could use him in a trade to move up in some round of the draft?
We'd be paying Hawk 1.6 million a year for three years to not be a Packer, though.


Not sure myself. the article only said he's due 5.45 mil in salary and bonuses next year....
I got 6.5 not including workout or roster bonuses
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justo wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.

2012, yes. 2013???
Caps roll over now, right?


yes it rolls over but the cap isn't expected to go up much.....

One thought found interesting in the WSJ...they spoke of Hawk gone next year and giving Jones a new contract, as he would be cheaper and plays all 3 downs, whereas hawk comes out on passing downs. that would open up some money also. but what got me thinking is if they go to get rid of him (he's approaching the 30 mark) maybe they could use him in a trade to move up in some round of the draft?
We'd be paying Hawk 1.6 million a year for three years to not be a Packer, though.


Not sure myself. the article only said he's due 5.45 mil in salary and bonuses next year....
I got 6.5 not including workout or roster bonuses


Well the WSJ article came from Pete Dougherty of the GBPG, so he is usually really accurate....it's one of those articles that runs State wide even though it originated at the GB press gazzette.
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Not sure this second level group is in a place where they can give away a talent like Hawk. Just too many things none of us know right now with that group. Think you might be able to pull it off if both Bishop and Smith come back healthy. Still would be a high risk cut at this point. Hard to give away the things you trust! If nothing else, you know Hawk is going to show up for work every day.
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Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
justo wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Terranimal wrote:
finally caught up on local Pack news stuff. We are currently only 7 mil under the cap.

2012, yes. 2013???
Caps roll over now, right?


yes it rolls over but the cap isn't expected to go up much.....

One thought found interesting in the WSJ...they spoke of Hawk gone next year and giving Jones a new contract, as he would be cheaper and plays all 3 downs, whereas hawk comes out on passing downs. that would open up some money also. but what got me thinking is if they go to get rid of him (he's approaching the 30 mark) maybe they could use him in a trade to move up in some round of the draft?
We'd be paying Hawk 1.6 million a year for three years to not be a Packer, though.


Not sure myself. the article only said he's due 5.45 mil in salary and bonuses next year....
I got 6.5 not including workout or roster bonuses


Well the WSJ article came from Pete Dougherty of the GBPG, so he is usually really accurate....it's one of those articles that runs State wide even though it originated at the GB press gazzette.


4.9 base, 8 million signing bonus (/5) is 1.6, (6.5), +300,000 roster bonus, 250,000 workout bonus according to this:
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/gb/
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terranimal wrote:
yes it rolls over but the cap isn't expected to go up much.....

One thought found interesting in the WSJ...they spoke of Hawk gone next year and giving Jones a new contract, as he would be cheaper and plays all 3 downs, whereas hawk comes out on passing downs. that would open up some money also. but what got me thinking is if they go to get rid of him (he's approaching the 30 mark) maybe they could use him in a trade to move up in some round of the draft?

This is where injuries bite us in the tush. Our back-ups come in and show that they are serviceable, upping the price come contract time.
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