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WindyCity
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | I will be named the Bears HC before Josh McDaniels is. |
I would take you over Lovie.
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Madmike90
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| WindyCity wrote: | Do you think McDaniels is a terrible coach?
Or was he terrible as a GM with personnel? |
Both…I think he is arrogant and believes that his system is good enough to work with average talent…he didn’t show much leadership at all when the – hit the fan in Denver…I mean the guy thought Tebow was a 1st round talent…I think we have seen many guys pick up the mantel of offensive coordinator in New England and do well but when you look at his offence in Denver & St. Louis…
2009: 15th in total yards…20th in points
2010: 13th in total yards…19th in points
2011: 31st in total yards…32nd in points
One year later and add some NE magic and Tom Brady and he is #1 in yards & points…I think it clearly has more to do with the NE set up then McDaniels talent. |
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WindyCity
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | Do you think McDaniels is a terrible coach?
Or was he terrible as a GM with personnel? |
Both…I think he is arrogant and believes that his system is good enough to work with average talent…he didn’t show much leadership at all when the – hit the fan in Denver…I mean the guy thought Tebow was a 1st round talent…I think we have seen many guys pick up the mantel of offensive coordinator in New England and do well but when you look at his offence in Denver & St. Louis…
2009: 15th in total yards…20th in points
2010: 13th in total yards…19th in points
2011: 31st in total yards…32nd in points
One year later and add some NE magic and Tom Brady and he is #1 in yards & points…I think it clearly has more to do with the NE set up then McDaniels talent. |
I wonder if he has changed and is not as arrogant?
I have always felt that he killed himself with the personnel moves and was okay with the on the field stuff.
But again he is not on my short list.
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Badger75
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hiring Josh McDaniels as the HC of the Bears is a really bad idea.
Chalie Weiss is another really bad idea He is like a lot of old recycled HC's. No to Andy Reid and Jon Gruden as well.
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DaMike
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Badger75 wrote: | Hiring Josh McDaniels as the HC of the Bears is a really bad idea.
Chalie Weiss is another really bad idea He is like a lot of old recycled HC's. No to Andy Reid and Jon Gruden as well. |
I would love to have Gruden. |
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AZBearsFan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see any way this happens unless we trade Cutler, so I don't see any way it happens.
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WindyCity
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| AZBearsFan wrote: | | I don't see any way this happens unless we trade Cutler, so I don't see any way it happens. |
It has been 4 years maybe they have moved on.
4 years with Turner, Martz and Tice might make Cutler more willing to work with McDaniels.
Just fire Lovie already.
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DaMike
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| WindyCity wrote: | | AZBearsFan wrote: | | I don't see any way this happens unless we trade Cutler, so I don't see any way it happens. |
It has been 4 years maybe they have moved on.
4 years with Turner, Martz and Tice might make Cutler more willing to work with McDaniels.
Just fire Lovie already. |
Cutler never said he didn't want to play with McDaniels. McDaniels tried trading Cutler and when that initial trade fell through he wouldn't promise Cutler that he wouldn't continue to try and trade him. |
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WindyCity
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| DaMike wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | | AZBearsFan wrote: | | I don't see any way this happens unless we trade Cutler, so I don't see any way it happens. |
It has been 4 years maybe they have moved on.
4 years with Turner, Martz and Tice might make Cutler more willing to work with McDaniels.
Just fire Lovie already. |
Cutler never said he didn't want to play with McDaniels. McDaniels tried trading Cutler and when that initial trade fell through he wouldn't promise Cutler that he wouldn't continue to try and trade him. |
I know.
I doubt they still have issues with each other.
But again Rick Dennison is the guy I am calling.
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DaMike
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| WindyCity wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | | AZBearsFan wrote: | | I don't see any way this happens unless we trade Cutler, so I don't see any way it happens. |
It has been 4 years maybe they have moved on.
4 years with Turner, Martz and Tice might make Cutler more willing to work with McDaniels.
Just fire Lovie already. |
Cutler never said he didn't want to play with McDaniels. McDaniels tried trading Cutler and when that initial trade fell through he wouldn't promise Cutler that he wouldn't continue to try and trade him. |
I know.
I doubt they still have issues with each other.
But again Rick Dennison is the guy I am calling. |
If I had to guess I would say they still have issues. Enough to were we wouldn't consider McDaniels. |
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AZBearsFan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| WindyCity wrote: | | AZBearsFan wrote: | | I don't see any way this happens unless we trade Cutler, so I don't see any way it happens. |
It has been 4 years maybe they have moved on.
4 years with Turner, Martz and Tice might make Cutler more willing to work with McDaniels.
Just fire Lovie already. |
I get your rationale for wanting Lovie to be gone. But that doesn't mean we should replace him with just anyone. McDaniels is an obvious misfit for the guys who are a key part of this team's future. Emery would be crazy to tie his future to a HC who he knows would walk in the door having significant baggage with his two best players.
Dennison is definitely an intriguing guy of we go the up-and-comer route (which we have always done) in this hypothetical coaching search. I like Arians a lot too but him being 60 gives me pause.
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AZBearsFan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| AZBearsFan wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | | AZBearsFan wrote: | | I don't see any way this happens unless we trade Cutler, so I don't see any way it happens. |
It has been 4 years maybe they have moved on.
4 years with Turner, Martz and Tice might make Cutler more willing to work with McDaniels.
Just fire Lovie already. |
I get your rationale for wanting Lovie to be gone. But that doesn't mean we should replace him with just anyone. McDaniels is an obvious misfit for the guys who are a key part of this team's future. Emery would be crazy to tie his future to a HC who he knows would walk in the door having significant baggage with his two best players.
Dennison is definitely an intriguing guy of we go the up-and-comer route (which we have always done) in this hypothetical coaching search. I like Arians a lot too but him being 60 gives me pause. |
Also, why would McDaniels want to take a job where he may very well be fighting an uphill battle to win the locker room from day one?
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IronMike84
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Josh McDaniels, huh? I believe the abbreviation the kids are using for stuff like this these days is "FML."
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Nads786
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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How about the interim coach for the Colts? Or the OC of the Denver Broncos? Both were able to adjust their coaching based on circumstances
The Denver OC was able to go from Kyle Orton to Time Tebow to Peyton Manning the ability to adjust is pretty impressive.
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WindyCity
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt the McDaniels rumor is true.
But it is nice that this is starting because it usually means that someone is getting replaced.
I would like Dennison, Gruden or McCoy.
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