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who wins

Raiders and Chiefs

80%

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Chiefs and raiders

20%

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Dessie

Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 3841

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000113059/article/terrelle-pryor-plays-for-raiders-on-day-he-called-911

Pryor and Palmer both ill before the game. Sorry if said before.
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bitty wrote:

I don't understand why everybody thinks Green Bay is the pinnacle of NFL franchises?
In my opinion they are a joke. In the last ten years there drafts sucked.

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Baggabonez

Joined: 29 Apr 2010
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Location: RaiderNation

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject:

RaiderX wrote:

Darkness wrote:

Silver&Black88 wrote:

Darkness is in Veldheer's corner. He's trying to be cute and pick on RaiderX and I. Give him a break.

I was making a jab at RaiderX always feeling the need to mention a few negative plays for players he doesn't like.

Players I don't like? C'mon dude. I like Veldheer and I've said that before, but I've also said if we can find an upgrade at LT we should move him to the right side. Keep jumping to conclusions.

My deal is that people on here see a certain player like say Mitchell, Lee or Wheeler and see them make a few plays in a game or two and automatically they forget how bad they've been overall the past season. They return and play poorly and everybody wonders why we suck. Because we're overrating players. Believe I was with these guys in thinking guys like Huff, McClain, Branch, etc. would become great but they never even live up to our own expectations.

Didn't know not saying a guy was playing perfect or amazing after a game would hurt your feelings. I'll try to be more positive about these great players who make consistent plays game after game.

+1
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Baggabonez

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject:

Dessie wrote:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000113059/article/terrelle-pryor-plays-for-raiders-on-day-he-called-911

Pryor and Palmer both ill before the game. Sorry if said before.

Sounds like an overzealous kitchen worker trying to help TP out didn't know he and Palmer would be sharing a meal. LOL. Kidding.
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Nightmare

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject:

"Both Pryor and Oakland Raiders teammate Carson Palmer came down a with a bug that led to Pryor throwing up for the first time in his life."

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Warren Sapp is a fool. That dude is stupid. He played for the Raiders 20 years ago, no one cares what he says, nobody likes him, he’s a joke.

^ ^ ^ Chaz Schilens

Baggabonez

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:03 pm Post subject:

Nightmare wrote:

"Both Pryor and Oakland Raiders teammate Carson Palmer came down a with a bug that led to Pryor throwing up for the first time in his life."

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What?

Does this mean you can't get that "EWW WHEE" in Columbus?

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NCOUGHMAN

Joined: 25 Mar 2008
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Location: Stockton via East Palo Alto

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject:

Baggabonez wrote:

Nightmare wrote:

"Both Pryor and Oakland Raiders teammate Carson Palmer came down a with a bug that led to Pryor throwing up for the first time in his life."

Question

What?

Does this mean you can't get that "EWW WHEE" in Columbus?

i thought he was a party boy at OSU?
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NCOUGHMAN >>>>>> all of you

Darkness

Joined: 24 Jun 2012
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Location: CA-TX

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:36 am Post subject:

RaiderX wrote:

Darkness wrote:

Silver&Black88 wrote:

Darkness is in Veldheer's corner. He's trying to be cute and pick on RaiderX and I. Give him a break.

I was making a jab at RaiderX always feeling the need to mention a few negative plays for players he doesn't like.

Every players different. JVs been very good this season. Seems like you expect him to be perfect every game.
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Reading Darkness posts you'd think the warriors were playoff contenders Laughing

RaiderX

Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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Location: Crown Town, CA

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:36 am Post subject:

Darkness wrote:

RaiderX wrote:

Darkness wrote:

Silver&Black88 wrote:

Darkness is in Veldheer's corner. He's trying to be cute and pick on RaiderX and I. Give him a break.

I was making a jab at RaiderX always feeling the need to mention a few negative plays for players he doesn't like.

Every players different. JVs been very good this season. Seems like you expect him to be perfect every game.

He's been solid but not as good as last season as far as pass protection. Most people on here know that. Some people just choose to go by stats and that bothers. He has limited his penalties though and I've said that before as well. I honestly don't talk about him much unless he gives up a sack or the question of him moving to RT. But I guess it SEEMS like I just dont like him.
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SaveourSonics wrote:

Yea, RaiderX wins. We can all just top acting like this is a matter of opinion. MY GOD.

91jmay

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:46 am Post subject:

I'd take Luke Joeckel if Star isn't there as much as I think JV is solid. JV would be a great RT, and Joeckel will be a Star at LT. Would be a great pairing.
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baconrad3 wrote:

You mean Matt Stafford aka Stat Padford?

Bo_Spice

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:55 am Post subject:

91jmay wrote:

I'd take Luke Joeckel if Star isn't there as much as I think JV is solid. JV would be a great RT, and Joeckel will be a Star at LT. Would be a great pairing.

I'd be happy if we took Luke Joeckel or Taylor Lewan this year. Both look like franchise left tackles and I think Jared Veldheer would be an excellent right tackle. Assuming we could keep Veldheer around for the long term we'd have two really good young tackles moving forward.
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Dessie

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject:

Bo_Spice wrote:

91jmay wrote:

I'd take Luke Joeckel if Star isn't there as much as I think JV is solid. JV would be a great RT, and Joeckel will be a Star at LT. Would be a great pairing.

In that scenario surely Veldheer would just leave as a FA in 2014 and get a LT contract off another team ?
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bitty wrote:

I don't understand why everybody thinks Green Bay is the pinnacle of NFL franchises?
In my opinion they are a joke. In the last ten years there drafts sucked.

#clueless

Silver&Black88

Joined: 24 Feb 2009
Posts: 24553
Location: Rochester, NY

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject:

Dessie wrote:

Bo_Spice wrote:

91jmay wrote:

I'd take Luke Joeckel if Star isn't there as much as I think JV is solid. JV would be a great RT, and Joeckel will be a Star at LT. Would be a great pairing.

In that scenario surely Veldheer would just leave as a FA in 2014 and get a LT contract off another team ?

Maybe, but in the long run it would be an upgrade anyway assuming Joeckel/Lewan pan out

Dessie

Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 3841

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject:

Silver&Black88 wrote:

Dessie wrote:

Bo_Spice wrote:

91jmay wrote:

I'd take Luke Joeckel if Star isn't there as much as I think JV is solid. JV would be a great RT, and Joeckel will be a Star at LT. Would be a great pairing.

In that scenario surely Veldheer would just leave as a FA in 2014 and get a LT contract off another team ?

Maybe, but in the long run it would be an upgrade anyway assuming Joeckel/Lewan pan out

Hope to be an upgrade. We should be sitting Veldheer down at the end of the season and trying to resign him. Pick up a RT along the way. If he doesn't then look to get a replacement.
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bitty wrote:

I don't understand why everybody thinks Green Bay is the pinnacle of NFL franchises?
In my opinion they are a joke. In the last ten years there drafts sucked.

#clueless

macklemore

Joined: 27 Apr 2012
Posts: 1425
Location: Seattle, WA

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject:

Silver&Black88 wrote:

Dessie wrote:

Bo_Spice wrote:

91jmay wrote:

I'd take Luke Joeckel if Star isn't there as much as I think JV is solid. JV would be a great RT, and Joeckel will be a Star at LT. Would be a great pairing.

In that scenario surely Veldheer would just leave as a FA in 2014 and get a LT contract off another team ?

Maybe, but in the long run it would be an upgrade anyway assuming Joeckel/Lewan pan out

or we could just lock-up Veldheer before the draft with a contract in the 6-8 mil a year range.
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Silver&Black88

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Location: Rochester, NY

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject:

macklemore wrote:

Silver&Black88 wrote:

Dessie wrote:

Bo_Spice wrote:

91jmay wrote:

I'd take Luke Joeckel if Star isn't there as much as I think JV is solid. JV would be a great RT, and Joeckel will be a Star at LT. Would be a great pairing.

In that scenario surely Veldheer would just leave as a FA in 2014 and get a LT contract off another team ?

Maybe, but in the long run it would be an upgrade anyway assuming Joeckel/Lewan pan out

or we could just lock-up Veldheer before the draft with a contract in the 6-8 mil a year range.

Is that what an average to above average LT goes for these days?

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