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Porter22
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 Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject: OT Brown and S Jekins placed on IR |
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| Quote: | | New Orleans Saints Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis announced Saturday that the team has placed T Charles Brown and S Malcolm Jenkins on the reserve/injured list, ending the season for the two players. In two related transactions, the Saints have signed G Ricky Henry and S Jerico Nelson to the active roster from the team’s practice squad. |
Bad news for both of them, but I like to see more of Quddus! |
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Harper41
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Giving the backup safeties some looks I'd assume. I wouldn't be surprised to see both Jenkins and Harper replaced this off-season.
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Raves
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Harper41 wrote: | | Giving the backup safeties some looks I'd assume. I wouldn't be surprised to see both Jenkins and Harper replaced this off-season. |
I could see Harper replaced, I think Kenny Phillips if the Giants don't extend him would be Spags preferred choice, but I think Spags likes what he has in Jenkins as long as he can continue to make strides back to the player he was when he first came out.
Next year if we have a safety duo of Jenkins/Phillips I think our safety play will be exponentially better as both are able to cover, provide run support, and man up as a corner at times which means Quddus hits the field.
Then you add in what should be a remarkably better DL with possibly a line-ups of:
LDE-Jordan
LDT-Bunkley
RDT-Hicks
RDE-Wilson
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LDE-Galette
LDT-Jordan
RDT-Hicks
RDE-Wilson
That's a lot of pressure from the outside. I put Wilson as RDE as I feel he's the better pure pass rusher while Galette is better at run defense but whenever either are on the field they make plays.
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Malcolm Jenkins - 78 Tackles, 1 Sack, 1 FF, 9 PD, 1 FRTD
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Harper41
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I'm sorry but I'm so done hearing excuses for Jenkins. He has had statistically the WORST year of his career in coverage this year, and that says A LOT. Roman Harper lacks coverage ability, thats for sure, but Malcolm Jenkins is right there with him. They both freaking suck in coverage and they both need to be replaced. Roman Harper is a far superior player but with the NFL going pass happy, he's not very useful unless he's basically playing LB.
Both safeties need to be replaced this offseason. No more excuses.
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sammymvpknight
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think that I have ever been as wrong about a player than Jenkins. I was certain that he was going to be an pro bowl type safety in the league. He had all the skills...the athleticism, football IQ, and drive for the game. But I was wrong. His football IQ is below average and he is clueless about how to play centerfield. He needs to move to nickle CB where hopefully he can revive his career...but his future is NOT at safety. I am excited to see IAQ get an opportunity...because I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he is better and a potential started for next year.
I was never sold on Charles Brown. He had strength and durability issues in college...and that is why he was a late 2nd rounder. Asking someone to gain a significant amount of weight/strengthen and assuming that that player will stay healthy is horrible strategy. Hopefully Marcel Jones can take a huge leap forward next year...because if he cannot the Saints will definitely need to consider bringing an instant impact OT which would take away either salary cap (free agent) or a 1st round draft pick. With the dire situation on the defensive side of the ball, being forced into spending a 1st rounder on offense would be a huge blow to the Saints fortunes in 2013. |
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Raves
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| sammymvpknight wrote: | | I don't think that I have ever been as wrong about a player than Jenkins. I was certain that he was going to be an pro bowl type safety in the league. He had all the skills...the athleticism, football IQ, and drive for the game. But I was wrong. His football IQ is below average and he is clueless about how to play centerfield. He needs to move to nickle CB where hopefully he can revive his career...but his future is NOT at safety. I am excited to see IAQ get an opportunity...because I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he is better and a potential started for next year. |
He didn't suddenly get bad football IQ, he simply isn't a centerfielder, which I could've told you about, but he's great as part of a two safety tandem with occasional centerfield responsibilities, he never had great ball skills, at least not in the form of interceptions but rather breakups, and he can be a great safety when he doesn't have to try and digest the entire field and whether or not Harper is going to mess up coverage within the 20's. Granted Harper is great in the redzone in coverage, but between the 20's you might as well chalk it up to a completion because Jenkins can't cover Harper's man and provide over the top help to Greer and White who have been getting blown past this year.
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Harper41
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| Raves wrote: | | sammymvpknight wrote: | | I don't think that I have ever been as wrong about a player than Jenkins. I was certain that he was going to be an pro bowl type safety in the league. He had all the skills...the athleticism, football IQ, and drive for the game. But I was wrong. His football IQ is below average and he is clueless about how to play centerfield. He needs to move to nickle CB where hopefully he can revive his career...but his future is NOT at safety. I am excited to see IAQ get an opportunity...because I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he is better and a potential started for next year. |
He didn't suddenly get bad football IQ, he simply isn't a centerfielder, which I could've told you about, but he's great as part of a two safety tandem with occasional centerfield responsibilities, he never had great ball skills, at least not in the form of interceptions but rather breakups, and he can be a great safety when he doesn't have to try and digest the entire field and whether or not Harper is going to mess up coverage within the 20's. Granted Harper is great in the redzone in coverage, but between the 20's you might as well chalk it up to a completion because Jenkins can't cover Harper's man and provide over the top help to Greer and White who have been getting blown past this year. |
Excuses, excuses, excuses. ALL I see with Jenkins is freaking EXCUSES. "He's struggling because Harper sucks!" "He's struggling because White sucks!" NO. Jenkins is struggling because HE sucks. I'm done with him, and Harper. NEITHER of them can cover worth a damn, get them the heck out of here.
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whodatworm23
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| Harper41 wrote: | | Raves wrote: | | sammymvpknight wrote: | | I don't think that I have ever been as wrong about a player than Jenkins. I was certain that he was going to be an pro bowl type safety in the league. He had all the skills...the athleticism, football IQ, and drive for the game. But I was wrong. His football IQ is below average and he is clueless about how to play centerfield. He needs to move to nickle CB where hopefully he can revive his career...but his future is NOT at safety. I am excited to see IAQ get an opportunity...because I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he is better and a potential started for next year. |
He didn't suddenly get bad football IQ, he simply isn't a centerfielder, which I could've told you about, but he's great as part of a two safety tandem with occasional centerfield responsibilities, he never had great ball skills, at least not in the form of interceptions but rather breakups, and he can be a great safety when he doesn't have to try and digest the entire field and whether or not Harper is going to mess up coverage within the 20's. Granted Harper is great in the redzone in coverage, but between the 20's you might as well chalk it up to a completion because Jenkins can't cover Harper's man and provide over the top help to Greer and White who have been getting blown past this year. |
Excuses, excuses, excuses. ALL I see with Jenkins is freaking EXCUSES. "He's struggling because Harper sucks!" "He's struggling because White sucks!" NO. Jenkins is struggling because HE sucks. I'm done with him, and Harper. NEITHER of them can cover worth a damn, get them the heck out of here. |
I'm with Harp on this one... especially after this game!!!
Harper & Jenkins got showed up by Quddus & Bush today. Quddus has to be a 2013 starter, PERIOD! Bush is a solid reserve but I really like what he and Albert Mack bring to this defense. I'd Love to see the Saints snag Phillips and pair him with Quddus and trade Harper and Jenkins. I'm sick of making excuses and hearing excuses on both of them.
THis game said a lot about the safety position...
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