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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

REDandPEWTER wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
REDandPEWTER wrote:
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RoeKG wrote:
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canadabuccaneer wrote:
From NFL.com on the Dolphins Sean Smith:
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Smith's camp reportedly believes the market for the cornerback is similar to the ones that drew $8-$10 million per year for Brandon Carr and Jason McCourty. It's a steep price for a player who struggled against smaller, quicker receivers while allowing more combined first downs and touchdowns than any cornerback in the NFL last season.


It's hard not to be intrigued by his size and potential but those stats and his asking price have reduced my interest in possibly signing him. I personally like Derek Cox but his injury past is a concern.


Thank you. Derek cox will be cheaper and is better than smith. Sean Smith IMO is another Eric Wright situation. Paying top dollar for an average corner. Same with DRC.


I've always been impressed with what little I've seen of Derek Cox. How bad is his injury history?


He played in 12 games this season and 6 last season.

I think there is zero chance the Jags let him walk.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=512227&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

If we want one of the top fa corners this year it will be between Smith, DRC or Williams.


If Dom is smart, he'll stay away from Smith and DRC. Both have the mind set to command big money. Both are not going to be worth it.


I wonder how much interest we have in Cary Williams.

Tall, long, coming off a solid season, with deep playoff and SB experience.

I know he wants $8-10 million per. Don't think he gets the high end of that but if we are willing to shell out $7.5 per for Wright, I would think we won't hesitate to drop $8-8.5 on a corner that can play outside.

He was born and played high school ball in Florida.


Keenen Lewis is a guy to keep an eye on. I know Pittsburgh has said they want to keep him, but 14 million over the cap is very very difficult to free up the cap to pay Lewis 6 mil a year. He's probably the best CB on the market, IMO.


+1 Lewis played pretty well in his first season as the starting CB for the steelers. I wouldn't mind Cox as we all know we should get a CB in the FA. I don't think Schiano would want DRC as he isn't that team player and all he cares about is himself. Smith I really wanted him in the start of his but after a couple of reads and what was just said I kinda don't want him now
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Soul Glo,

I know it's tough to get a read when looking at text. I'm not mad or mean to come off arrogent. It just that it seemed you thought I was just basing my rankings off the sr bowl. So no worries bro. We're all bucs fans and I enjoy discussing football in this forum.

it's all good man, agreed.... nothing wrong with some good discussion or different opinions!


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As for Jarvis Jones, I don't know if I see an elite player. Many make the Von Miller comparison, but I don't see it. I see a very good player but I'm not buying the hype he's elite. He gets blown out of plays and I didn't really see him stand out against Alabama, which was probably the closest opponent with quality NFL talent.

I agree there, he's not the elite prospect Miller was... not as strong or as explosive. The one thing this draft lacks is there aren't really any elite prospects in this draft.
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Doctors give clear bill of health to Georgia LB Jarvis Jones. Med report will be sent to teams Thursday, should solidify top-10 pick.

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Doctors give clear bill of health to Georgia LB Jarvis Jones. Med report will be sent to teams Thursday, should solidify top-10 pick.


that's huge for him, there are still questions, but still HUGE
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soul Glo wrote:
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Doctors give clear bill of health to Georgia LB Jarvis Jones. Med report will be sent to teams Thursday, should solidify top-10 pick.


that's huge for him, there are still questions, but still HUGE

Really happy for him. Some teams may still shy away from him after their doctors take a look at him at the combine, but if he falls to us I would hope that we pull the trigger. Special talent.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty interesting breakdown of the top CB prospects and how they fared in coverage this season.

https://twitter.com/JPSTATS/status/301451176896000000/photo/1/large
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaRealdeal wrote:
Pretty interesting breakdown of the top CB prospects and how they fared in coverage this season.

https://twitter.com/JPSTATS/status/301451176896000000/photo/1/large


I'm really starting to want Rhodes at 13. The more I'm watching the more I'm considering putting him in my top 15.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see Cox or Lewis making it to free agency. And I'm not in love with DRC, Smith, or Williams but I think we need to sign one of them. I don't think any of them are true #1 corners but they are going to get paid like they are just because that is the nature of free agency- people get overpaid. But I think CB is enough of a need that even if they are good #2 corners and we find our future #1 in the draft, a la Dallas last year, then our secondary is going to be in good shape going forwards.

For me, in free agency I'd like to see us sign one of those corners, a defensive end, a tight end, and a defensive tackle. Then in the draft target a CB in the first, and best player available at slot receiver, linebacker, free safety, or tackle from there on out.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antoine Cason is the corner I hope we snag.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who do you guys like more at OLB
Jamie Collins
John Simon

DE
William Gholston
Devin Taylor
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Who do you guys like more at OLB
Jamie Collins
John Simon

DE
William Gholston
Devin Taylor


Simon would be a defensive end in our defense so Collins for OLB. Not a big fan of either DE But if I had to choose I think I'd pick Gholston.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTMW78 wrote:
Who do you guys like more at OLB
Jamie Collins
John Simon

DE
William Gholston
Devin Taylor


I am a HUGE Jamie Collins fan! I think he is going to be a good player in this league. I dont think Simon fits our scheme/defense, but he has the type of attitude and drive i love in a player.

I just feel like those Ends are just more of what we already have. Bigger guys, who defend the run really well but arent that great at rushing the passer. I just want to get a guy who is a pure pass rusher. We dont have that type of specialist on our team.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHOMP_CHOMP wrote:
DTMW78 wrote:
Who do you guys like more at OLB
Jamie Collins
John Simon

DE
William Gholston
Devin Taylor


I am a HUGE Jamie Collins fan! I think he is going to be a good player in this league. I dont think Simon fits our scheme/defense, but he has the type of attitude and drive i love in a player.

I just feel like those Ends are just more of what we already have. Bigger guys, who defend the run really well but arent that great at rushing the passer. I just want to get a guy who is a pure pass rusher. We dont have that type of specialist on our team.


Who do you like at DE in the mid rounds (4th onwards)
How about David Bass or Michael Buchanan?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTMW78 wrote:
CHOMP_CHOMP wrote:
DTMW78 wrote:
Who do you guys like more at OLB
Jamie Collins
John Simon

DE
William Gholston
Devin Taylor


I am a HUGE Jamie Collins fan! I think he is going to be a good player in this league. I dont think Simon fits our scheme/defense, but he has the type of attitude and drive i love in a player.

I just feel like those Ends are just more of what we already have. Bigger guys, who defend the run really well but arent that great at rushing the passer. I just want to get a guy who is a pure pass rusher. We dont have that type of specialist on our team.


Who do you like at DE in the mid rounds (4th onwards)
How about David Bass or Michael Buchanan?


Yea those are good names. They have some good upside. To continue the list i would add Malliciah Goodman and Quanterus Smith as possible picks in the 4th.

I would prefer we take a DE before round 4 though. The class of 4-3 defensive ends is kind of thin after the top-tier guys go off the board. If a guy like Carradine or Lemonier are there in the 3rd i would love for us to grab one of them. But that is a big IF.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are your guys thoughts on Bostic and Mauti? Personally I love both of them. They both have great instincts at the linebacker position. I think both first round LB prospect are overrated(Te'O and Ogletree) Especially Ogletree.
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