BSH/DRD/SG Official 2013 OFF-Season THREAD

[RoeKG]

I hear Ray Horton may be out with the coaching change in AZ.

I would love to bring him in as DC.
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[Soul Glo]

Just a few thoughts (or a lot )
-People were asking about Mingo and where he'd fit, to be honest I don't know but I think he has the type of talent where you find him a spot. The most confusing part is that Clayborn is a RE, so that limits his chances in the scheme of things. Pass rushing wise he's the best speed rusher - right now - in this draft. He's stronger than Jordan and Jones, and unlike Jordan actually has a move or two (not saying he's better than Jones though - I think he's top three injuries aside in this class). Mingo can make impact plays and has a great closing speed, good motor and though he hasn't played much coverage at LSU sniffs out screens great and is good in space. He's got room to get bigger and add more moves to his repertoire. It'll be interesting where he fits in a 4-3, as I think he's a better fit in a 3-4..... but would definitely bring the speed rusher we desire.

-I love Ansah as well, way different player then Mingo. Ansah is versatile as they get and has good instincts especially considering his lack of experience. Great athlete, to have his speed and strength is phenominal. Have seen him track down RBs. I would like to see what he can do in a more pass rushing role as BYU did not really utilize him there, his speed is great but I don't think he did not have the same burst as JPP coming out. They are in similiar situations, but they are different players. He still plays high and needs to work on his moves/technique, but great kid with amazing potential. Very well could be top ten prospect in this draft.

For the Manti Teo story it is a very complex situation but either way how it turns out, he loses..... even if he was "duped" (which I have a hard time believing) it will still hurt him. There are so many holes in his story. & to begin with he never was a "special" athlete and he had issues in his game, so he's not an undeniable talent and we've seen just as good players fall in the draft before. Some NFL teams will cross him of their boards whether he was right or wrong, who will want that circus in town? It'd be hard pressed for a GM/Coach to put their job on the line and pick him early in the draft, day two might even be risky. There are so many holes in his story it is unbelievable. On the bright side, there has been some info released that does back him and it good for him to have ND backing him up (I'm surprised they acted so quickly, risking a lot for one kid.... must mean they do truly believe him or are just stupid). But as of right now the facts are against him. I do think the real story falls somewhat in the middle, some true and some false. Their are huge character questions, regardless of what the story is. My biggest issue is and why he'd be super low on my board is that, after watching the Tebow situation (a kid with the best character around) and the circus he brought, imagine the media Teo will bring? Some of his greatest things about him was his leadershiip and intangibles both now have major question marks. It is a situation I would not want to invest much in. Now again, if I am a Pats fan I may be more willing to take the risk. Either way, this is an absurd situation and one in which I'm having trouble to put my thoughts into words. He looks stupid to me know though honestly no matter how the story comes out.

Like your rankings R&p few things I'm thinking:
-Do not think Joekel is best in draft, not elite tackle of years past good and maybe top five though, who knows.... class is not very top heavy
-Got Werner and Mingo higher
-I don't think Fluker gets a first round grade
-I am so torn on Cordelle Patterson and where to put him, great talent and first rounder though
-It'd hard to not give Shariff Floyd and Justin Hunter first round grades IMO

[Lil' Shorty]

[bucstopshere]

Expect my scouting to heat up real quick. One of my favorite weeks of the year is next week. Have every senior bowl practice set to record on the DVR. Expect full reports from me daily on both sides.

There are a few players that Inreally think have a high probability of becoming Bucs.

QB-EJ Manuel & Landry Jones
RB-Kenjon Barner, Mike Gillislie, Jonathan Franklin, Andre Ellington
WR-Markus Wheaton, Chris Harper, Tavon Austin, Ryan Swope
TE Ryan Otten, Travis Kelce, Mike Williams
DE-Ezekial Ansah, Margus Hunt, Alex Okafor, Datone Jones
DT-Kawann Short, Cory Grissom, John Jenkins, Jordan Hill, Everette Dawkins
LB-Khaseem Greene, Nico Johnson, Sean Porter, Arthur Brown, Kevin Riddick
CB-Jordan Poyer, Will Davis, Desmond Trufant, Leon McFadden, Marc Anthony, Johnny Adams, Dwayne Gratz, Johnthan Banks
S-Phillip Thomas, DJ Swearinger, Kenny Vaccaro

I know there are a ton of names there but I believe there are 3 future Bucs in the list above.

The biggest one to me is Johnthan Banks. Big rangy corner, want to see against the pretty good collection of WRs. Here is something from a recent interview I thought you guys would like...

[RoeKG]

[REDandPEWTER]

Horton is a great coach but will he adjust to Schianos scheme? Schiano seems content on keeping Sheridan.

[indifference]

Horton is a pipe-dream. He has head coaching aspirations anyway so say we do hire him - he'd be outta here by Dec 2013 trying to be a head coach for a team like the Titans or Panthers. Tampa still needs to find a DL coach now that we canned our last guy. Marneilli would've been ideal but the guy decides to parter up with Kiffin. Yeah, even more reasons to cheer against those guys now. Cowboys defensive line is about to be A1 next year.

I want to see Alabama vs Miss. State game where Banks played against Julio Jones. Jones went 3 for 41 yards against State and it'll be cool to see how Banks played him.

[REDandPEWTER]

[bucstopshere]

[REDandPEWTER]

[scottonatable]

Bucs hired John McNulty to be QB coach

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[bucstopshere]

[BBando]

^ Our D Line coach didn't get fired.
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