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tml_gogo


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's horrible if true.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its bad but not as bad as Lance Armstrong thats for sure
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now he is saying it wasn't his "girl" but someone he was close to on the net.

"Oh sorry, i thought we were a computer couple, turns out someone was just jacking me"... Laughing

Oh man, you can only shake your head and laugh. Whoever chooses to draft this fool better dig deep into his brain beforehand to make sure he's not going to go postal.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canadabuccaneer wrote:
DaRealdeal wrote:
This story may change how you view Manti Te'o...

It is such an insane story that paints him in a very different light. If it is true, Te'o is an immature fraud desperately looking for publicity.


Like you said, if true that is a pretty sick story to make up.


Since I was carrying the Te'o elite prospect flag, this is just very, very, very disturbing. If true, he certainly isn't what Coach Schiano would envision as a Buccaneer man.
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REDandPEWTER


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manti Teo is just sick in the head. Plying for his dead fake girl friend? Wow. I don't know how low people can get.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teo is saying that he was duped by someone that he chatted with online and talked to on the phone... I don't know what to believe but this whole story is just messed up... i'm sure all the real details will come out soon though
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy just dropped in the draft. What a sick joke though!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He had previously stated that she was "the love of his life" but now it is someone that he had met online and he had just talked to on the phone? How is it that his brother called him to tell him the news that she had just died? This is not sounding to me as though he was "just a victim". The whole story will come out soon I'm sure, but he certainly won't be looked at the same way again after all of this. His talent will still be the same, but his character won't be. This is just sad.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares about teo. Won't draft him and shouldn't. Overrated as a prospect and keuchly and David are better.

Back to draft talk: Xavier Rhodes has been listed going anywhere late first to mid 2nd. If we fix the pass rush in FA why not trade down for Rhodes and use those picks to move up for Ertz?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

REDandPEWTER wrote:
Who cares about teo. Won't draft him and shouldn't. Overrated as a prospect and keuchly and David are better.

Back to draft talk: Xavier Rhodes has been listed going anywhere late first to mid 2nd. If we fix the pass rush in FA why not trade down for Rhodes and use those picks to move up for Ertz?


Who trades up and for what player though?

I was taking a look at that and it's tough to come up with a team or player.

Last year (though everyone didn't agree) we were in a spot of good trade value being infront of the Skins. Qb needy teams would of found our spot juicy since they would of been jumping the Skins. Now all that didn't matter because they traded up, it's just I don't see the player or need this year.

Maybe a team wants Warmack? The Rams, Cowboys, Bears, Colts could all use him to name a few. Does he even make it to our spot and if he does wouldn't a team contact the Panthers or Saints seeing as they are closer to the Rams pick? It's still very early but other than him I can't see another guy worth trading up for.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caaddy24 wrote:
Teo is saying that he was duped by someone that he chatted with online and talked to on the phone... I don't know what to believe but this whole story is just messed up... i'm sure all the real details will come out soon though

Even if he was catfished, he continued to perpetuate the lie. What a bizarre story. Regardless if he is telling the truth now or not, his character is going to be a massive question mark now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deuces22wild wrote:
REDandPEWTER wrote:
Who cares about teo. Won't draft him and shouldn't. Overrated as a prospect and keuchly and David are better.

Back to draft talk: Xavier Rhodes has been listed going anywhere late first to mid 2nd. If we fix the pass rush in FA why not trade down for Rhodes and use those picks to move up for Ertz?


Who trades up and for what player though?

I was taking a look at that and it's tough to come up with a team or player.

Last year (though everyone didn't agree) we were in a spot of good trade value being infront of the Skins. Qb needy teams would of found our spot juicy since they would of been jumping the Skins. Now all that didn't matter because they traded up, it's just I don't see the player or need this year.

Maybe a team wants Warmack? The Rams, Cowboys, Bears, Colts could all use him to name a few. Does he even make it to our spot and if he does wouldn't a team contact the Panthers or Saints seeing as they are closer to the Rams pick? It's still very early but other than him I can't see another guy worth trading up for.


Teams are more willing to move up now a days with te new rookie salary cap scale. I just can't see us moving up for milliner. He's getting top 5 hype right now and probably won't last past Detroit.

Zach Ertz is getting 1st round interet right now. Some have him ahead of Eifert. Ertz is a match up nightmare for defenses. 6'6 250. Solid blocker very good route runner and hands.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

REDandPEWTERS Top 32: Big Board

1. Luke Joeckel T Texas AM
2. Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia
3. Star Loutellelli DT Utah
4. Demantre Moore DE Texas AM
5. Dee Milliner CB Alabama
6. Chance Warmack G Alabama
7. Jonathon Hankins DT/NT Ohio State
8. Cordelle Patterson WR Tennessee
9. Enzekial Ansuh DE BYU
10. Bjoern Werner DE Florida State
11. Eric Fisher T Central Michigan
12. Geno Smith QB West Virginia
13. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
14. Dion Jordan DE/OLB Oregon
15. DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson
16. Barkevious Mingo DE/.OLB LSU
17. Sam Montgomery DE/OLB LSU
18. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State
19. David Amerson FS North Carolina State
20. Kennan Allen WR California
21. Zach Ertz TE Stanford
22. Barrett Jones C Alabama
23. Jesse Williams DT Alabama
24. Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
25. Jonathon Cooper G/T North Carolina
26. Jordan Poyer CB Oregon State
27. DJ Fluker T/G Alabama
28. Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse
29. Kevin Minter MLB LSU
30. Kawan Short DT Purdue
31. Manti Teo MLB Notre Dame
32. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOP 5 Positional Rankings Broken Down: :

QB:

1. Geno Smith West Virginia
2. Ryan Nassib Syracuse
3. Mike Glennon NC State
4. Tyler Wilson Arkansas
5. Landry Jones Oklahoma

RB:
1. Eddie Lacy Alabama
2. Giovani Bennard NC
3. Monte Ball Wisconsin
4. Stepfan Taylor Stanford
5. Jawan Jamison Rutgers

WR:
1. Cordelle Patterson Tennessee
2. DeAndre Hopkins Clemson
3. Kennen Allen California
4. Justin Hunter Tennessee
5. Terrance Williams Baylor

TE:
1. Zach Ertz Stanford
2. Tyler Eifert Notre dame
3. Gavin Escobar San Diego State
4. Travis Kelce Cincinatti
5. Jordan Reed Florida

tackle:
1. Luke Joeckal Texas AM
2. Eric Fisher C. Mich
3. DJ Fluker Alabama
4. Lane Johnson Oklahoma
5. Kyle Long Oregon

G/C:
1. Chance Warmack Alabama
2. Barrett Jones C/G Alabama
3. Jonathon Cooper G UNC
4. Larry Warford G Kentucky
5. Dallas Thomas Tennessee

DE:
1. Demantre Moore Texas AM
2. Enzekial Ansuh BYU
3. Bjoern Werner Florida State
4. Dion Jordan Oregon
5. Sam Montgomery LSU

34 OLB Pass Rushers:
1. Jarvis Jones Georgia
2. Demantre Moore Texas AM
3. Dion Jordan Oregon
4. Barkevious Mingo LSU
5. Sam Montgomery LSU

DT:
1. Star Loutellelli Utah
2. Jonathon Hankins Ohio State
3. Sheldon Richardson Missouri
4. Jessee Williams Alabama
5. Kawan Short Purdue

OLB:
1. Jarvis Jones Georgia
2. Kasheem Greene Rutgers
3. Arthur Brown Kansas State
4. Gerald Hodges Penn State
5. Chase Thomas Stanford

ILB:
1. Kevin Minter LSU
2. Monte Teo Notre Dame
3. Alec Ogeltree Georgia
4. Nico Johnson Alabama
5. Michael Mauti Penn state

CB:
1. Dee Milliner Alabama
2. Xavier Rhodes Florida State
3. Jordan Poyer Oregon State
4. Logan Ryan Rutgers
5. Will Davis Utah State

Safety:
1. David Amerson FS NC State
2. Kenny Vaccarro FS/SS Texas
3. DJ Swearinger SS/FS South Carolina
4. Tony Jefferson FS Oklahoma
5. Matt Elam SS Florida
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mini Mock because I'm sick and bored, home from work:
-Key re-signings:

-Michael Bennett
-Roy miller

Cap Cuts:
-Koenen 3.25 mil
-Black: 6 mil
-Wright 7.25 mil.

Savings: 16.5 mil added to our current 31 million Cap limit. 47.5 cap space.

Off-Season Splash Signing:
- Paul "Freddy" Kruegar DE: Dude has a motor that is non stop. Baltimore will not be able to retain him.

Other Key mid-level bargains:
- DT Glenn Dorsey
- CB Mike Jenkins
- WR Julian Endleman
- QB David Garrard

Draft:
Move down from 1st round pick (someone will fall that won't interest us, gather an additional 3rd round pick:)

1st Rd: Xavier Rhodes CB FSU
2nd Rd (moving up using our 4th round pick)Zach Ertz TE Stanfrod
3rd Rd: Will Davis CB Utah State
3rd Rd Via Trade: Tony Jefferson FS Oklahoma
4th Rd: talib Trade via NE: Brian Winters T Kent State
5th Rd: Corey Fuller WR Va Tech
6th Rd: Zach Stacey RB Vanderbilt
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