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Superman(DH23)
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | This has been discussed for about 3 years now, it's not a new idea. From my understanding the format would be:
1-Bye
2-7 seeded according to record regardless of division standing
or 1-8 all play, seeded by record
the arguement for is the 2008 Pats who went 11-5 and missed the playoffs
the arguement against is the 2010 Seahawks who made the playoffs at 7-9 |
Adding more teams isn't necessary to fix this problem.
IMO top 6 teams getting in makes more sense. |
Only way that happens is if you get rid of the divisions, and then you have to figure out how to schedule 256 games each year |
you could still have divisions. |
if the top 6 get in why have divisions? Just look at the 49ers last year, or the Pats pretty much every year. 6 easy wins. Versus the NFCN, AFCN, NFCS where every division game is a dogfight. If you do the top 6 you have to get rid of the divisions just to maintain the balance. If you do top 6 you could potentially have a division winner who doesnt make the playoffs, what's the point?
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | EliteTexan80 wrote: | | - Coaches hot dog eating contests to determine who gets the ball instead of the opening coin flip. Andy Reid suddenly has 31 job offers. |
31? The jets don't need him? |
Either that, or the Eagles are sick of him and would fire him anyways.
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As a Panthers fan...
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tylerdouglass
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | This has been discussed for about 3 years now, it's not a new idea. From my understanding the format would be:
1-Bye
2-7 seeded according to record regardless of division standing
or 1-8 all play, seeded by record
the arguement for is the 2008 Pats who went 11-5 and missed the playoffs
the arguement against is the 2010 Seahawks who made the playoffs at 7-9 |
Adding more teams isn't necessary to fix this problem.
IMO top 6 teams getting in makes more sense. |
Only way that happens is if you get rid of the divisions, and then you have to figure out how to schedule 256 games each year |
you could still have divisions. |
if the top 6 get in why have divisions? Just look at the 49ers last year, or the Pats pretty much every year. 6 easy wins. Versus the NFCN, AFCN, NFCS where every division game is a dogfight. If you do the top 6 you have to get rid of the divisions just to maintain the balance. If you do top 6 you could potentially have a division winner who doesnt make the playoffs, what's the point? |
promoting rivalries and schedule structure.
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | EliteTexan80 wrote: | | - Coaches hot dog eating contests to determine who gets the ball instead of the opening coin flip. Andy Reid suddenly has 31 job offers. |
31? The jets don't need him? |
Rex lost a lot of weight.
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Superman(DH23)
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | This has been discussed for about 3 years now, it's not a new idea. From my understanding the format would be:
1-Bye
2-7 seeded according to record regardless of division standing
or 1-8 all play, seeded by record
the arguement for is the 2008 Pats who went 11-5 and missed the playoffs
the arguement against is the 2010 Seahawks who made the playoffs at 7-9 |
Adding more teams isn't necessary to fix this problem.
IMO top 6 teams getting in makes more sense. |
Only way that happens is if you get rid of the divisions, and then you have to figure out how to schedule 256 games each year |
you could still have divisions. |
if the top 6 get in why have divisions? Just look at the 49ers last year, or the Pats pretty much every year. 6 easy wins. Versus the NFCN, AFCN, NFCS where every division game is a dogfight. If you do the top 6 you have to get rid of the divisions just to maintain the balance. If you do top 6 you could potentially have a division winner who doesnt make the playoffs, what's the point? |
promoting rivalries and schedule structure. |
But as a Saints fan why should you have to play 4 games against playoff caliber teams and the Pats or Broncos don't have to play any? If you keep the divisions, the division winner has to get in, there is no other reason to have divisions.
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Tom Shean
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Would be an okay idea. Imagine the epic 1 seed upsets.
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Superman(DH23)
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An interesting idea would be to borrow from the NCAA and baseball, and make the 6/7 seeds have a playin game and then keep the same format of previous years.
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Does this mean the Chiefs have a shot at making the playoffs now???
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tylerdouglass
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | This has been discussed for about 3 years now, it's not a new idea. From my understanding the format would be:
1-Bye
2-7 seeded according to record regardless of division standing
or 1-8 all play, seeded by record
the arguement for is the 2008 Pats who went 11-5 and missed the playoffs
the arguement against is the 2010 Seahawks who made the playoffs at 7-9 |
Adding more teams isn't necessary to fix this problem.
IMO top 6 teams getting in makes more sense. |
Only way that happens is if you get rid of the divisions, and then you have to figure out how to schedule 256 games each year |
you could still have divisions. |
if the top 6 get in why have divisions? Just look at the 49ers last year, or the Pats pretty much every year. 6 easy wins. Versus the NFCN, AFCN, NFCS where every division game is a dogfight. If you do the top 6 you have to get rid of the divisions just to maintain the balance. If you do top 6 you could potentially have a division winner who doesnt make the playoffs, what's the point? |
promoting rivalries and schedule structure. |
But as a Saints fan why should you have to play 4 games against playoff caliber teams and the Pats or Broncos don't have to play any? If you keep the divisions, the division winner has to get in, there is no other reason to have divisions. |
like I said, the divisions would still promote rivalries and help with scheduling problems, so there's not "no other reason"
IMO a team who's 10-6 should NEVER get in the playoffs over a team who's 11-5. It makes it even worse when the team is 9-7 or 8-8. If you're in a tough division, that sucks, but the team who wins the most games wins the most games. There's no way to make it totally fair, I'm acknowledging that much.
at the least, they should keep the top in each division + 2 wildcards, but change seeding from best to worst record
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Eksynyt
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I would love to see a 1 vs 8 seed game. I don't like the bye format.
I also want them to make all division winners have a guaranteed spot, but not a home game. If you go 7-9 and win the division, then you'll be the #8 seed at the #1.
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | This has been discussed for about 3 years now, it's not a new idea. From my understanding the format would be:
1-Bye
2-7 seeded according to record regardless of division standing
or 1-8 all play, seeded by record
the arguement for is the 2008 Pats who went 11-5 and missed the playoffs
the arguement against is the 2010 Seahawks who made the playoffs at 7-9 |
Not sure how a Matt Cassel lead team would be an argument for... 
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so they are pretty much making it so that everyone can get in ...
I dislike the NBA for this reason, they allow 16 team in and its way to much.
I love the system that the NFL has right now, dont know why they would change it.
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Superman(DH23)
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| TheVillain112 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | This has been discussed for about 3 years now, it's not a new idea. From my understanding the format would be:
1-Bye
2-7 seeded according to record regardless of division standing
or 1-8 all play, seeded by record
the arguement for is the 2008 Pats who went 11-5 and missed the playoffs
the arguement against is the 2010 Seahawks who made the playoffs at 7-9 |
Not sure how a Matt Cassel lead team would be an argument for... |
touche' but they still went 11-5 and didn't make it.
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| EliteTexan80 wrote: | | vikingsrule wrote: | | Jeez 16 teams. Brings to meaning to playoffs, they really dont mean anything. I think its ideal the way it is. 4 division champs / 2 wild cards. I dont mind change, but not this. |
Agreed. This is one place where the NFL has it down as right as they can. Maybe some seeding issues, or issues with bad division winners taking a spot from a better team in a division that has been won by someone else 2008 Pats come to mind) but net/net, it's better than any other league.
Don't try to fix what ain't broke. |
This. That is the reason why the NHL and NBA seasons are meaningless. You also lose the appeal to weeks 15-17 when everyone with marginal talent makes the playoffs.
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