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Joe_is_the_best
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| TheKillerNacho wrote: | | Joe_is_the_best wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Joe_is_the_best wrote: | | If there had been 16 playoff teams since 2003, 1 team with a losing record (7-9) would have gotten in. |
But 14 teams at 8-8 would've gotten in.
YUCK.
8-8 teams do NOT deserve a shot to compete for the Lombardi trophy. |
That's what I said, I just wasn't as specific. I would be wary of letting so many of them in, I agree. 8-8 isn't good enough if you ask most fans.
If you ask people who want to make money (owners), all they see is more games = more TV revenue. I think it could backfire as the spectacle of each game will be watered down. |
Eh... unfortunately, I think the owners may be right... I don't see how 16-game playoffs would "water down" the audience. I would still watch every playoff game, as would most football fans, and the fans of the teams in the playoff game would certainly watch it.
From a money making standpoint I see the owners making more money if there are more playoff games. |
Idk. With the schedule now, we can watch every game without a problem. Add 4 more teams, and it becomes harder.
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NateDawg
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| nugpimpen wrote: | | fretgod99 wrote: | | NateDawg wrote: | | This idea is just absurd. I'm tired of these sports that reward mediocrity by giving a team a postseason to play for redemption. Can we just form a coup and run Goodell out of office yet? What a joke. To me, there is no playoff suspense at the end of the year when you have a bunch of 7-9 teams for that final spot. If it's a 9-7 or 10-6 team, you might actually take that team seriously. No, I don't care that a Seahawks team a couple years ago made a playoff upset or two. Even if a 6-10 team in the future makes the playoffs and wins a game or two, that doesn't justify that team making the playoffs. Just my preference, and everyone has their own opinion, but I think it sucks. |
Good idea. Then the owners can hire the next person who'll make the exact same suggestion because the owners think there's more money in it for them. |
Shhhhh....
You can't try and use logic here. |
Thanks. I understand logic just fine, I'm an adult.
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sp6488
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| steelcurtain29 wrote: | | Mason Storm wrote: | | Do u want a 6-10 team in the playoffs I dont |
What if that 6-10 is actually better than record indicates?
Saints will likely go 6-10 at this point. Without this debacle that happened this year; they likely go 10-6 at least.
We had a 7-9 Seahawks in, and they beat the defending champs; and convincingly, I might add. |
If we're using the argument that "maybe they're better than their record indicates" then why even have a regular season? If we aren't relying on a teams record to determine their worthiness for the playoffs then what is the point of regular season game? Yes the 7-9 Seahawks got in, but they won their division which I see as a good enough mechanism for potentially allowing a team into the playoffs that "may be better than their recor indicates" as it is. The playoffs should be the best teams, not half the league.
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I won't be sorry when the Ravens finish 8-8. |
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texans_uk
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| TheVillain112 wrote: | I used to defend Goodell, but now it's pretty obvious that all he cares about is...
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Unfortunately we have a similar scenario in the world of Soccer.
They are increasing teams from 16 to 24 in one our best tournaments (which will severely dilute the competition) and playing a 2020 tournament around the entire continent, meaning fans may have to travel hundreds of miles every couple of days to follow their country.
Sadly sports are run by money men (or in soccer's case corrupt money men)
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| sp6488 wrote: | | steelcurtain29 wrote: | | Mason Storm wrote: | | Do u want a 6-10 team in the playoffs I dont |
What if that 6-10 is actually better than record indicates?
Saints will likely go 6-10 at this point. Without this debacle that happened this year; they likely go 10-6 at least.
We had a 7-9 Seahawks in, and they beat the defending champs; and convincingly, I might add. |
If we're using the argument that "maybe they're better than their record indicates" then why even have a regular season? If we aren't relying on a teams record to determine their worthiness for the playoffs then what is the point of regular season game? Yes the 7-9 Seahawks got in, but they won their division which I see as a good enough mechanism for potentially allowing a team into the playoffs that "may be better than their recor indicates" as it is. The playoffs should be the best teams, not half the league. |
thing is, only way a 6-10 team will ever get in the playoffs, expansion or not, is by winning their division. Expansion by 1 or 2 teams per conference does not mean teams picking in the top half of the draft will be in the playoffs.
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haggis
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:37 am Post subject: |
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All they have to do is add 1 more team per AFC and NFC
only the top team gets the 1st Round Bye
Round 01
1st = Bye
2nd vs 7th
3rd vs 6th
4th vs 5th
This would also make teams play harder to try to get the #1 spot instead of loafing it
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haggis
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:37 am Post subject: |
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All they have to do is add 1 more team per AFC and NFC
only the top team gets the 1st Round Bye
Round 01
1st = Bye
2nd vs 7th
3rd vs 6th
4th vs 5th
This would also make teams play harder to try to get the #1 spot instead of loafing it
eazy peazy |
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ninerfan225
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| FirstDownFaulk wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | | Steelerspower wrote: | I'm speechless right now.....It's stupid to reward the mediocrity
I hate so much Goodell, who not stopped to want to change the game
I'm glad that many begin to realize that Goodell is an idiot and he thinks only about money |
It's so hard to get a read on you.
English not a first language?
Poor language skills?
Posting from phone?
10 years old?
I can't quite pinpoint it.
I'm not trying to insult you, i'm honestly just curious. |
I've been wondering the same thing and I was pretty close to being the "Richard" and pose the question....
Not that it matters, but I've always been curious... |
Still easier to under
stand then el
rammy
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Keleth
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| ninerfan225 wrote: | | FirstDownFaulk wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | | Steelerspower wrote: | I'm speechless right now.....It's stupid to reward the mediocrity
I hate so much Goodell, who not stopped to want to change the game
I'm glad that many begin to realize that Goodell is an idiot and he thinks only about money |
It's so hard to get a read on you.
English not a first language?
Poor language skills?
Posting from phone?
10 years old?
I can't quite pinpoint it.
I'm not trying to insult you, i'm honestly just curious. |
I've been wondering the same thing and I was pretty close to being the "Richard" and pose the question....
Not that it matters, but I've always been curious... |
Still easier to under
stand then el
rammy |
His posts are always the same.
Very poor English .Excusable as English doesn't appear to be his 1st language.
Rant against Goodell for 1 thing or another. |
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mco65
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:13 am Post subject: |
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The only drawback to adding 4 more teams is that the 2 top seeds from each conference will NOT get a bye... no 6-10 will ever make the playoffs (not gonna happen) and the only 7-9 team will be ones that win their division and guess, what.. those 7-9 would be in regardless of playoff expansion.
2 extra teams per conference WILL NOT water down the playoffs. Those extra games will be just as exciting as any playoff game now.. Get ready because its VERY LIKELY to happen. |
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sp6488
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:36 am Post subject: |
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| Keleth wrote: | | ninerfan225 wrote: | | FirstDownFaulk wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | | Steelerspower wrote: | I'm speechless right now.....It's stupid to reward the mediocrity
I hate so much Goodell, who not stopped to want to change the game
I'm glad that many begin to realize that Goodell is an idiot and he thinks only about money |
It's so hard to get a read on you.
English not a first language?
Poor language skills?
Posting from phone?
10 years old?
I can't quite pinpoint it.
I'm not trying to insult you, i'm honestly just curious. |
I've been wondering the same thing and I was pretty close to being the "Richard" and pose the question....
Not that it matters, but I've always been curious... |
Still easier to under
stand then el
rammy |
His posts are always the same.
Very poor English .Excusable as English doesn't appear to be his 1st language.
Rant against Goodell for 1 thing or another. |
Sometimes, simply because of the way it's written, I read it in my head like a very poor entrant at an open mic poetry night.
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| Tzimisce wrote: | I'm sorry you're drowning in a sea of delusion.
I won't be sorry when the Ravens finish 8-8. |
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fretgod99
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| haggis wrote: | All they have to do is add 1 more team per AFC and NFC
only the top team gets the 1st Round Bye
Round 01
1st = Bye
2nd vs 7th
3rd vs 6th
4th vs 5th
This would also make teams play harder to try to get the #1 spot instead of loafing it
eazy peazy |
Do this and seed them based on record, not division winner, and I'd have no problem with it.
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mse326
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Why does everyone complain when Goddell does something to make more money.
That is literally his job description. He works for the owners. Not the fans.
When you all get that through your head, maybe you can start looking to where blame lies. He can't do anything on his own. He comes up with ideas to make money and pushes the idea. But he can't implement it on his own.
I tak what I said about his job description back. That is actually only part 1. Part 2 is to be the lightning rod for fans to throw their ire instead of the owners.
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incognito_man
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm glad at least a couple people also took the time to look back and realize it would largely include teams over .500 and only a few .500 teams and a very, very rare sub .500 team over the past decade.
It seems every analyst who's job entails research (or should) couldn't look this simple statistic up.
Sad.
Good work to those who did (including myself  ) |
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