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ChazStandard
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| steelcurtain29 wrote: | | Mason Storm wrote: | | Do u want a 6-10 team in the playoffs I dont |
What if that 6-10 is actually better than record indicates?
Saints will likely go 6-10 at this point. Without this debacle that happened this year; they likely go 10-6 at least.
We had a 7-9 Seahawks in, and they beat the defending champs; and convincingly, I might add. |
Well...any team can get some momentum and beat a better team. The whole point of the regular season is to reward consistently good teams with a chance to be crowned champions. If you let in several teams worse than .500 you may as well just scrap the league and have a straight random draw knock-out tournament.
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This idea is just absurd. I'm tired of these sports that reward mediocrity by giving a team a postseason to play for redemption. Can we just form a coup and run Goodell out of office yet? What a joke. To me, there is no playoff suspense at the end of the year when you have a bunch of 7-9 teams for that final spot. If it's a 9-7 or 10-6 team, you might actually take that team seriously. No, I don't care that a Seahawks team a couple years ago made a playoff upset or two. Even if a 6-10 team in the future makes the playoffs and wins a game or two, that doesn't justify that team making the playoffs. Just my preference, and everyone has their own opinion, but I think it sucks.
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If it ain't broke....
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Joe_is_the_best
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Why do people act like 2 more playoff teams will get 6-10 teams in the playoffs? It wouldn't happen.
If there had been 14 playoff teams since 2003, not one team with a losing record would have gotten in.
If there had been 16 playoff teams since 2003, 1 team with a losing record (7-9) would have gotten in.
Let's not exaggerate people. I think it's a bad idea as well, but it's not like 6-10 teams will be getting in. I would not be pissed with a 14 team playoff, because that would allow these 10-6 and 11-5 teams to get in. 16 playoff teams would be awful, gobs of 8-8 teams would get in.
Regardless, if it ain't broke don't fix it... Keep it like it is.
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| NateDawg wrote: | | This idea is just absurd. I'm tired of these sports that reward mediocrity by giving a team a postseason to play for redemption. Can we just form a coup and run Goodell out of office yet? What a joke. To me, there is no playoff suspense at the end of the year when you have a bunch of 7-9 teams for that final spot. If it's a 9-7 or 10-6 team, you might actually take that team seriously. No, I don't care that a Seahawks team a couple years ago made a playoff upset or two. Even if a 6-10 team in the future makes the playoffs and wins a game or two, that doesn't justify that team making the playoffs. Just my preference, and everyone has their own opinion, but I think it sucks. |
Good idea. Then the owners can hire the next person who'll make the exact same suggestion because the owners think there's more money in it for them.
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Just for some context, over the past few years, the teams with the worst record to make the playoffs were the:
2008 San Diego Chargers
2010 Seattle Seahawks
2011 Denver Broncos.
They all have two things in common 
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| fretgod99 wrote: | | NateDawg wrote: | | This idea is just absurd. I'm tired of these sports that reward mediocrity by giving a team a postseason to play for redemption. Can we just form a coup and run Goodell out of office yet? What a joke. To me, there is no playoff suspense at the end of the year when you have a bunch of 7-9 teams for that final spot. If it's a 9-7 or 10-6 team, you might actually take that team seriously. No, I don't care that a Seahawks team a couple years ago made a playoff upset or two. Even if a 6-10 team in the future makes the playoffs and wins a game or two, that doesn't justify that team making the playoffs. Just my preference, and everyone has their own opinion, but I think it sucks. |
Good idea. Then the owners can hire the next person who'll make the exact same suggestion because the owners think there's more money in it for them. |
Shhhhh....
You can't try and use logic here.
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Let's get some 8-8 teams in the playoff baby
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| ChazStandard wrote: | | steelcurtain29 wrote: | | Mason Storm wrote: | | Do u want a 6-10 team in the playoffs I dont |
What if that 6-10 is actually better than record indicates?
Saints will likely go 6-10 at this point. Without this debacle that happened this year; they likely go 10-6 at least.
We had a 7-9 Seahawks in, and they beat the defending champs; and convincingly, I might add. |
Well...any team can get some momentum and beat a better team. The whole point of the regular season is to reward consistently good teams with a chance to be crowned champions. If you let in several teams worse than .500 you may as well just scrap the league and have a straight random draw knock-out tournament. |
Yup, you get a chance. But nothing is guaranteed. Ask the packers |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Let's get some 8-8 teams in the playoff baby |
Everyone would complain....until their team finished 8-8  |
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| Joe_is_the_best wrote: | | If there had been 16 playoff teams since 2003, 1 team with a losing record (7-9) would have gotten in. |
But 14 teams at 8-8 would've gotten in.
YUCK.
8-8 teams do NOT deserve a shot to compete for the Lombardi trophy.
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | Joe_is_the_best wrote: | | If there had been 16 playoff teams since 2003, 1 team with a losing record (7-9) would have gotten in. |
But 14 teams at 8-8 would've gotten in.
YUCK.
8-8 teams do NOT deserve a shot to compete for the Lombardi trophy. |
To be fair, the Chargers, Seahawks, and Broncos all won a playoff game with a record of 8-8 or worse.
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Personally I love everything about the NFL's 32-team, 16-game season, 12-team playoff seeding. Please don't change that... ever.
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Joe_is_the_best
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | Joe_is_the_best wrote: | | If there had been 16 playoff teams since 2003, 1 team with a losing record (7-9) would have gotten in. |
But 14 teams at 8-8 would've gotten in.
YUCK.
8-8 teams do NOT deserve a shot to compete for the Lombardi trophy. |
That's what I said, I just wasn't as specific. I would be wary of letting so many of them in, I agree. 8-8 isn't good enough if you ask most fans.
If you ask people who want to make money (owners), all they see is more games = more TV revenue. I think it could backfire as the spectacle of each game will be watered down.
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| Joe_is_the_best wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | Joe_is_the_best wrote: | | If there had been 16 playoff teams since 2003, 1 team with a losing record (7-9) would have gotten in. |
But 14 teams at 8-8 would've gotten in.
YUCK.
8-8 teams do NOT deserve a shot to compete for the Lombardi trophy. |
That's what I said, I just wasn't as specific. I would be wary of letting so many of them in, I agree. 8-8 isn't good enough if you ask most fans.
If you ask people who want to make money (owners), all they see is more games = more TV revenue. I think it could backfire as the spectacle of each game will be watered down. |
Eh... unfortunately, I think the owners may be right... I don't see how 16-game playoffs would "water down" the audience. I would still watch every playoff game, as would most football fans, and the fans of the teams in the playoff game would certainly watch it.
From a money making standpoint I see the owners making more money if there are more playoff games.
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