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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didnt Kolb go 4-0 with the cards ... got hurt and then they started this 0-7 losing streak?

I dont know who they plan on taking in the draft that they think can be a solid franchise qb.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DRC hasnt been an all star either, FWIW


No, but he's been a good corner. They also traded a second with DRC for Kolb. He had proven nothing to the league; what made Arizona think he was going to be any good?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gmen4ev wrote:
Didnt Kolb go 4-0 with the cards ... got hurt and then they started this 0-7 losing streak?

I dont know who they plan on taking in the draft that they think can be a solid franchise qb.

They can trade up to number two and get Tyler Wilson.
Please, do it Cards.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaguarfan wrote:
Gmen4ev wrote:
Didnt Kolb go 4-0 with the cards ... got hurt and then they started this 0-7 losing streak?

I dont know who they plan on taking in the draft that they think can be a solid franchise qb.

They can trade up to number two and get Tyler Wilson.
Please, do it Cards.


Thats just what the need ... more trades Laughing

Id just take 2/3 more bad years and wait for Manziel

In the mean time try and build around him. But no one takes my advice
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Jaguarfan wrote:
Gmen4ev wrote:
Didnt Kolb go 4-0 with the cards ... got hurt and then they started this 0-7 losing streak?

I dont know who they plan on taking in the draft that they think can be a solid franchise qb.

They can trade up to number two and get Tyler Wilson.
Please, do it Cards.




We'll probably have to trade down just to pick him at a spot of value
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Gmen4ev wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Gmen4ev wrote:
Didnt Kolb go 4-0 with the cards ... got hurt and then they started this 0-7 losing streak?

I dont know who they plan on taking in the draft that they think can be a solid franchise qb.

They can trade up to number two and get Tyler Wilson.
Please, do it Cards.


Thats just what the need ... more trades Laughing

Id just take 2/3 more bad years and wait for Manziel

In the mean time try and build around him. But no one takes my advice


Manziel has two top 10 lineman, and compiled half of his stats against 4 teams like Sam Houston State, SMU and South Carolina State.

I hardly think it's worth it to suck for 2 to 3 more years for the possibility that you may get him. Wink
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Gmen4ev wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Gmen4ev wrote:
Didnt Kolb go 4-0 with the cards ... got hurt and then they started this 0-7 losing streak?

I dont know who they plan on taking in the draft that they think can be a solid franchise qb.

They can trade up to number two and get Tyler Wilson.
Please, do it Cards.


Thats just what the need ... more trades Laughing

Id just take 2/3 more bad years and wait for Manziel

In the mean time try and build around him. But no one takes my advice


Manziel has two top 10 lineman, and compiled half of his stats against 4 teams like Sam Houston State, SMU and South Carolina State.

I hardly think it's worth it to suck for 2 to 3 more years for the possibility that you may get him. Wink


True true ... I still think hes gonna be a big star in the NFL (hope Laughing )

Who would you want?
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Gmen4ev wrote:
ArizonaPacker wrote:
Gmen4ev wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Gmen4ev wrote:
Didnt Kolb go 4-0 with the cards ... got hurt and then they started this 0-7 losing streak?

I dont know who they plan on taking in the draft that they think can be a solid franchise qb.

They can trade up to number two and get Tyler Wilson.
Please, do it Cards.


Thats just what the need ... more trades Laughing

Id just take 2/3 more bad years and wait for Manziel

In the mean time try and build around him. But no one takes my advice


Manziel has two top 10 lineman, and compiled half of his stats against 4 teams like Sam Houston State, SMU and South Carolina State.

I hardly think it's worth it to suck for 2 to 3 more years for the possibility that you may get him. Wink


True true ... I still think hes gonna be a big star in the NFL (hope Laughing )

Who would you want?


This year, the Cards probably draft one of TaMUs lineman instead. They may take a QB later in the draft to develop and bring in Alex Smith.

JMO. Totally depends if they keep Wisenhunt or not. He would probably draft a defensive end instead and retain Kolb. lol
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This year, the Cards probably draft one of TaMUs lineman instead. They may take a QB later in the draft to develop and bring in Alex Smith.

JMO. Totally depends if they keep Wisenhunt or not. He would probably draft a defensive end instead and retain Kolb. lol


Ive heard rumors that they are keeping wisenhunt ... Id love an Alex smith/Fitz duo Laughing

Been waiting soooo long for Fitz to get a quality Qb.
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Part of me wants to see Hoyer get a chance and to play well. I honestly think he can be a starter in this league and surprised by the lack of interest after his release.
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Matts4313 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Cardinals were trade raped in this one.


DRC hasnt been an all star either, FWIW

DRC's been better than Kolb, then you know there's Vinny Curry and Brandon Boykin FWIW
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The Cardinals were actually successful and winning games with Kolb starting. As soon as he goes out, they start losing. I'm not so sure it's a good idea to let him go unless they're sure they can bring in a good quarterback this offseason. If I were Arizona's GM, I wouldn't release Kolb until that happens.
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Matts4313 wrote:
EliteTexan80 wrote:
Matts4313 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Cardinals were trade raped in this one.


DRC hasnt been an all star either, FWIW


Weren't there some picks in there as well? I forget.


Yup - netted Boyken and Curry. Neither have done much yet, but their impact is yet to be seen.


1. DRC has still be significantly more impactful than Kolb.

2. Just because the Eagles wasted the picks doesn't mean that it wasn't a great trade at the time. Razz
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You gotta be good to be news worthy imo..

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TheKillerNacho wrote:
Matts4313 wrote:
EliteTexan80 wrote:
Matts4313 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Cardinals were trade raped in this one.


DRC hasnt been an all star either, FWIW


Weren't there some picks in there as well? I forget.


Yup - netted Boyken and Curry. Neither have done much yet, but their impact is yet to be seen.


1. DRC has still be significantly more impactful than Kolb.

2. Just because the Eagles wasted the picks doesn't mean that it wasn't a great trade at the time. Razz


I'm guessing while the second comment is mostly in jest, Boykin has been our nickelback the entire season, and looks like a solid at worst player. When Washburn was the coach he wanted to play his buddy Babin over Curry, who has been very good since being on the active gameday roster. While he doesn't have a sack, he's played in 2 games and has created pressure and made some plays in the oppositions backfield, both have bright futures.
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