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What will happen now?
Joe Flacco will be the 1st coming of Joe Montana Unitas Rodgers-Brady
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Joe Flacco will be ousted as the fraud he truly is
20%
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No change. He's middle of the pack top 10/15 QB
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 44%  [ 13 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diamondbull424 wrote:
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ravens5520 wrote:
You know what sucks about the whole madden curse??

Ray Lewis is in the opening dialogue and to me that's close enough to a curse from madden with all these injuries.

Next we start seeing all the Ray Lewis commercials.
--- madden commercials
--- Player safety commercials: now the whole team is injured.


Lol it was just an odd coincident to me


Bottom line: If Ray hasn't learned by now to stay away from Madden, he never will Sad

Well, I think he's gone after this season anyway... I think his thought process was that as long as he wasn't on the cover, why not benefit from a few extra dollars before hitting retirement?

But uh... yeah... no one knew just how destructive the curse could be. Shocked Evil or Very Mad


Meanwhile Megatron looks like he used some sort of Decepticon powers and passed the curse right along to Ray Ray...THOSE DAMN NFC NORTH ALIENS FROM MINNESOTA AND DETROIT! UGH!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A mix between Romo and Schaub.


From what I've seen that best describes Flacco.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Flacco

1,478 completions on 2,445 attempts (60.4%)
17,290 Passing Yards (7.1 AVG)
100 Passing TDs
6 Rushing TDs (440 yards on 198 attempts for 2.2 ypc average)
56 INTs
48 fumbles (16 lost)
Sacked 173 times for 1,211 yards
86.0 QB Rating

David Garrard

1,406 completions on 2,281 attempts (61.6%)
16,003 Passing Yards (7.0 AVG)
89 Passing TDs
17 Rushing TDs (1,746 yards on 380 attempts for 4.6 ypc average)
54 INTs
44 fumbles (21 lost)
Sacked 179 times for 1,115 yards
85.8 QB Rating
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
Joe Flacco

1,478 completions on 2,445 attempts (60.4%)
17,290 Passing Yards (7.1 AVG)
100 Passing TDs
6 Rushing TDs (440 yards on 198 attempts for 2.2 ypc average)
56 INTs
48 fumbles (16 lost)
Sacked 173 times for 1,211 yards
86.0 QB Rating

David Garrard

1,406 completions on 2,281 attempts (61.6%)
16,003 Passing Yards (7.0 AVG)
89 Passing TDs
17 Rushing TDs (1,746 yards on 380 attempts for 4.6 ypc average)
54 INTs
44 fumbles (21 lost)
Sacked 179 times for 1,115 yards
85.8 QB Rating


Sucks for Garrard.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RavensfanRD wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
Joe Flacco

1,478 completions on 2,445 attempts (60.4%)
17,290 Passing Yards (7.1 AVG)
100 Passing TDs
6 Rushing TDs (440 yards on 198 attempts for 2.2 ypc average)
56 INTs
48 fumbles (16 lost)
Sacked 173 times for 1,211 yards
86.0 QB Rating

David Garrard

1,406 completions on 2,281 attempts (61.6%)
16,003 Passing Yards (7.0 AVG)
89 Passing TDs
17 Rushing TDs (1,746 yards on 380 attempts for 4.6 ypc average)
54 INTs
44 fumbles (21 lost)
Sacked 179 times for 1,115 yards
85.8 QB Rating


Sucks for Garrard.

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I think Flacco is currently underachieving. The Ravens picked a poor year to test things out with a new offense, since the D can't support the team when the offense is struggling.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaguarfan wrote:
Question

I think Flacco is currently underachieving. The Ravens picked a poor year to test things out with a new offense, since the D can't support the team when the offense is struggling.


I agree with this but the offense wasn't exactly any better in the past few seasons either.
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coordinator0 wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Question

I think Flacco is currently underachieving. The Ravens picked a poor year to test things out with a new offense, since the D can't support the team when the offense is struggling.


I agree with this but the offense wasn't exactly any better in the past few seasons either.

I know, but when you only have 4 losses don't take the chance of screwing anything up drastically.
Look, I hate Cam Cameron, I just don't really understand the timing of his firing.
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Oh you were talking about the firing of Cameron. I thought you meant for the whole season. To be honest the play-calling wasn't a problem against the Broncos, it was the execution. I actually liked most of what Caldwell did (maybe that's just because we saw the middle of the field being used a few times instead of being mostly ignored). The system isn't going to change much this late in the season though. I can't see how anything is going to be screwed up drastically given what we were seeing out of the unit before.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaguarfan wrote:
coordinator0 wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Question

I think Flacco is currently underachieving. The Ravens picked a poor year to test things out with a new offense, since the D can't support the team when the offense is struggling.


I agree with this but the offense wasn't exactly any better in the past few seasons either.

I know, but when you only have 4 losses don't take the chance of screwing anything up drastically.
Look, I hate Cam Cameron, I just don't really understand the timing of his firing.


I wouldn't call it "drastic" by any means -- it's the same system we're using, just a different person deciding which ones will be used. It's the same as if any HC took over play calling duties.

The timing of the firing was simply because Cam's play calling was awful -- he neglected Rice, neglected the middle of the field, and he wasn't going to be around next season, so there's no reason to keep him. We had another guy on the coaching staff capable of deciding which plays to run, and we went with him. This is the reason that people are very much overreacting when saying "Look it was Flacco not Cam!" after 1 game, let alone the rest of the season -- Cam's system is still in place.
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Flaccomania wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
coordinator0 wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Question

I think Flacco is currently underachieving. The Ravens picked a poor year to test things out with a new offense, since the D can't support the team when the offense is struggling.


I agree with this but the offense wasn't exactly any better in the past few seasons either.

I know, but when you only have 4 losses don't take the chance of screwing anything up drastically.
Look, I hate Cam Cameron, I just don't really understand the timing of his firing.


I wouldn't call it "drastic" by any means -- it's the same system we're using, just a different person deciding which ones will be used. It's the same as if any HC took over play calling duties.

The timing of the firing was simply because Cam's play calling was awful -- he neglected Rice, neglected the middle of the field, and he wasn't going to be around next season, so there's no reason to keep him. We had another guy on the coaching staff capable of deciding which plays to run, and we went with him. This is the reason that people are very much overreacting when saying "Look it was Flacco not Cam!" after 1 game, let alone the rest of the season -- Cam's system is still in place.

I'm not saying the change is necessarily drastic, I'm just saying I wouldn't take the chance of a very bad result when the playcalling had resulted in 9 wins already.
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Jaguarfan wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
coordinator0 wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Question

I think Flacco is currently underachieving. The Ravens picked a poor year to test things out with a new offense, since the D can't support the team when the offense is struggling.


I agree with this but the offense wasn't exactly any better in the past few seasons either.

I know, but when you only have 4 losses don't take the chance of screwing anything up drastically.
Look, I hate Cam Cameron, I just don't really understand the timing of his firing.


I wouldn't call it "drastic" by any means -- it's the same system we're using, just a different person deciding which ones will be used. It's the same as if any HC took over play calling duties.

The timing of the firing was simply because Cam's play calling was awful -- he neglected Rice, neglected the middle of the field, and he wasn't going to be around next season, so there's no reason to keep him. We had another guy on the coaching staff capable of deciding which plays to run, and we went with him. This is the reason that people are very much overreacting when saying "Look it was Flacco not Cam!" after 1 game, let alone the rest of the season -- Cam's system is still in place.

I'm not saying the change is necessarily drastic, I'm just saying I wouldn't take the chance of a very bad result when the playcalling had resulted in 9 wins already.


For several of those wins, the play calling was bailed out due to execution. San Diego it certainly wasn't play calling that got us that 4th and 29. Dallas the play calling almost killed us by letting them back in the game, etc.

Fact is, his play calling was awful and it wasn't going to get us where wanted to go, so there's 0 point in keeping him around.
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Flaccomania wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
coordinator0 wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Question

I think Flacco is currently underachieving. The Ravens picked a poor year to test things out with a new offense, since the D can't support the team when the offense is struggling.


I agree with this but the offense wasn't exactly any better in the past few seasons either.

I know, but when you only have 4 losses don't take the chance of screwing anything up drastically.
Look, I hate Cam Cameron, I just don't really understand the timing of his firing.


I wouldn't call it "drastic" by any means -- it's the same system we're using, just a different person deciding which ones will be used. It's the same as if any HC took over play calling duties.

The timing of the firing was simply because Cam's play calling was awful -- he neglected Rice, neglected the middle of the field, and he wasn't going to be around next season, so there's no reason to keep him. We had another guy on the coaching staff capable of deciding which plays to run, and we went with him. This is the reason that people are very much overreacting when saying "Look it was Flacco not Cam!" after 1 game, let alone the rest of the season -- Cam's system is still in place.

I'm not saying the change is necessarily drastic, I'm just saying I wouldn't take the chance of a very bad result when the playcalling had resulted in 9 wins already.


For several of those wins, the play calling was bailed out due to execution. San Diego it certainly wasn't play calling that got us that 4th and 29. Dallas the play calling almost killed us by letting them back in the game, etc.

Fact is, his play calling was awful and it wasn't going to get us where wanted to go, so there's 0 point in keeping him around.


I think the most egregious example is playcalling probably LOSING us that Redskins game. Not going for a score at the end of the half was pathetic, but nothing compares to taking a knee at the end of regulation. I wanted Herm Edwards hired immediately following that loss as Assistant Head Coach - Aggression. "You play to win the game!"
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Just saying, Joe has about 3500 yards at this point and could definitely end the season at 4000 yards with like 23 TDs.
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@PFF: 17.7% of the passes Joe Flacco has attempted have gone over 20 yards in the air. The largest % of any QB in the league.


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@PFF: @jmanasso Would be wrong of us to speculate. Does have 11 touchdowns going deep, but 37.2% comp.% which isn't great for building drives


A helpful demonstration of the 'Uncle Cam is Drunk Herp Derp Air Coryell' system and the razor thin margin it forces us to operate with. There's just no balance at all. Instead of using the short game to set up the big play, we just try to set up the big play with the big play. When everything is clicking it's impossible to stop (see: Oakland game), but it's also not hard to see why we lead the NFL in 3 and outs. And it's going to be hard to sport a good completion percentage when your chucking it deep almost once every 5 throws.
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Jaguarfan wrote:
Just saying, Joe has about 3500 yards at this point and could definitely end the season at 4000 yards with like 23 TDs.


Is this just a random fact? Or related to the discussion we were having earlier?
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