The Joe Flacco Poll!

RavensfanRD · Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:44 am Post subject: The Joe Flacco Poll!

Ding dong the fraud is dead. Ah yes, Killa Cam is gone and now all eyes are on the Mighty (And my personal Football savior) Joe Flacco! What will happen now? Was Cam telling us that Flacco's a fraud? Or will Flacco show us he's the next Drew Brees throwing for 70 TD's and 20,000 yards?

Polls up! We'll revisit!
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DontTazeMeBro · Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 20499 Location: 321

I think he is an elite QB right now. He has been cash money time and time again for us in clutch situations. And we all know about his physical talent. He has made some of the most ridiculous throws I have ever seen this year.
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drd23 · Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:01 am Post subject:

Unless he fixes his ability to read blitzes pre-snap and his pocket presence, he isn't going to get much better than his 2010 peak (which was borderline Top 5 at the time, but there are better QBs in the league now)
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BaltimoreTerp · Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:03 am Post subject:

Too inconsistent to be elite, and it's now or never for proving he's elite.
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coordinator0 · Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 5873

Depending on how Caldwell ends up calling games Flacco should do better than what we've seen. If not... it probably doesn't matter because I firmly believe Flacco is going to be the Ravens QB for at least the next few years regardless of how he finishes this season.

I don't think the system will change too much this late in the season but let's hope we see some more emphasis on the short/intermediate passing game that's not based on out routes. Or have Rice as pretty much the only option anywhere near the middle of the field. You get the idea. We've all gotten the idea for the past few seasons.

sp6488 · Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 6229 Location: MD

I'm not sure I believe Flacco can ever reach "Elite" status (Top-5 QB's), but I think that he will settle in the 6 - 10 area nicely. Definitely think he is good enough to get us another Lombardi. Went with the 1st option.

As far as what I would like to see with Caldwell, I agree with those who want more short/intermediate throws. Why don't we see more crossing routes with Torrey? Him coming across with Boldin maybe running a rub/clearing route out of the slot could be filthy. Torrey with the ball in space would be nice as we have seen a few times now. Also, I'm not sure if the numbers agree, but it seems that we have not been getting Rice involved in the passing game as much as in years past. Maybe this is Joe hearing the criticism of being a "check-down king?"
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SnA ExclusiVe · Joined: 01 Jun 2011 Posts: 10575 Location: Spokane, WA

Although I've said Flacco can become elite, I think it all just depends on Flacco. If he can't read blitzes pre-snap and avoid rushers, he will NEVER be elite, period.

however, it's now or never with him to prove his worth.
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Flaccomania · Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 16526 Location: Parkville, MD

6-10 range, just more consistent IMO.
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diamondbull424 · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 10016 Location: Baltimore, MD

I picked the first one... And pretend that means he'll be a Top 7 QB. I don't think Flacco will ever be elite, but I definitely think he can settle in that top 7 range and be very good. He has elite physical tools. And with a system that doesn't expose his greatest weakness (pocket presence) than I think you've got a guy who can make all the throws and look good doing it.

I am worried that it took Flacco 4 years in the league to get a strong play action fake down, so that could be a telling aspect of his commitment to getting better. But at the same time, his accuracy really took a jump forward earlier this season when he spent a summer with Caldwell. Perhaps with Caldwell running things Flacco will be more comfortable with his technique and get back to looking like the QB he was to start this season.

I won't really hold pre-snap reads against Flacco to this point. He came into the league much more raw a player than most rookie QBs and excelled because of his elite physical tools. But Cameron has kept him on such a short leash that even when he had the freedom to make adjustments, it seemed like if he made a bad read or adjustment... We'd see Flacco "punished"/coddled. And our offense would be dummed down.

Short term, with more freedom I'd expect Flacco to make more mistakes- maybe throw more picks, but I think long term it should help him more with understanding what defenses are trying to do.
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ravens5520 · Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 8129 Location: New York

Flacco is a good QB when it comes to physicality.. But mentally I don't see him as an elite QB.. His ability to read a defense pre-snap and pocket presence will crush his career. Not sure if its too late or not to make adjustments, but this is a fresh start for Joe Flacco. It's still the same offensive package but now it's different plays being called. Hopefully Caldwell puts on his aggressive pants and this offense gets back to up tempo. We've been too scared/safe the past few weeks.

These last 3 games and playoffs will be an audition for Flacco and his possible new contract.

NJ Raven · Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:09 pm Post subject:

A mix between Romo and Schaub.
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