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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckyNumber11 wrote:
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Can we just please come away with Warmack, Geno and Lacey this April?

That would just make my year.


Impossible without using picks from 2014. It's one or the other... Warmack at #7 and I'm still favoring Barrett Jones at #38. He can start at center right away or be the first backup to all 5 spots for a year until Sendlein is cut after the season (cheaper than doing it now).
I 100% agree if Jones is there at 38 we have to take him. And just wondering whats Sendlein contract situation is his contract up, could we make a little from cutting him etc etc


He;s under contract thru the 2015 season. We'd lose less than a million cap dollars by cutting him.

I'd like to see what offensive system we run before making a determination on him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No point in cutting him before the draft.

Afterwards if he doesnt fit the scheme or wont take a paycut etc, then fine.

We still have options across the board, plus Lyle is one player who is probably above the NFL average at his position.
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Cutting him this year costs us money. We don't "Have" to draft a guy with a Lisfranc injury either. Those are tough, tough injuries to come back from.


If he's red-flagged it changes things. I would like Minter or a Safety at #38 if Jones has injury issues.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cutting him this year costs us money. We don't "Have" to draft a guy with a Lisfranc injury either. Those are tough, tough injuries to come back from.


If he's red-flagged it changes things. I would like Minter or a Safety at #38 if Jones has injury issues.


If Minter makes it to our 2nd round picj I will be screaming for us to draft him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyDez wrote:
khodder wrote:
Cutting him this year costs us money. We don't "Have" to draft a guy with a Lisfranc injury either. Those are tough, tough injuries to come back from.


If he's red-flagged it changes things. I would like Minter or a Safety at #38 if Jones has injury issues.


I will admit, I would be very tempted by Minter at 38
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warmack, Minter and then say Thomas in the 3rd

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Geno falls to #7 would you take him?
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If Geno falls to #7 would you take him?


It all depends on who our Head Coach is. But, yes, Probably.
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If Geno falls to #7 would you take him?


It all depends on who our Head Coach is. But, yes, Probably.

Yeah, under most circumstances that would be hard to say "No" to given our current bullpen.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to say no to Geno at #7

Really that is probably where he needs to go anyway
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to say yes to Geno at 7 but I just don't see the fit. If Luck can't make it there, Geno can't.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd love to say yes to Geno at 7 but I just don't see the fit. If Luck can't make it there, Geno can't.


Glennon might be an option he would fit well with Arians
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We aren't taking Glennon at #7. Maybe we trade back and select him but #7 is too high... This is a super important draft just like Whiz' first one. Things would be way different had we not botched the 5th pick.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We aren't taking Glennon at #7. Maybe we trade back and select him but #7 is too high... This is a super important draft just like Whiz' first one. Things would be way different had we not botched the 5th pick.


Common sense would say you're right but there's maybe 2-3 other guys who really fit in this offense and they're all lesser prospects. This offense cannot move without a QB, running the ball is not a staple of the offense enough to counteract a poor pass game. If we can't get moved back and there are indications that Glennon will be gone at 38, we're gonna have a hard decision to make. Giving Arians a QB that doesn't have a big arm, big body and ability to drive the football down the field will essentially guarantee his demise and in turn Keim's as well. It's very much a "no choice" situation.
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AZPSquared wrote:
stchamp98 wrote:
I'd love to say yes to Geno at 7 but I just don't see the fit. If Luck can't make it there, Geno can't.


Glennon might be an option he would fit well with Arians


Wilson fits as well, and is a better prospect (though that's not saying much, I guess).
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