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AZPSquared


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking, assuming we pick #4 and Geno is taken #1...

Round 1: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
Round 2: Mike Glennon, QB, NC State

Other Draft needs include: OLB, S, ILB
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AZPSquared wrote:
I was thinking, assuming we pick #4 and Geno is taken #1...

Round 1: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
Round 2: Mike Glennon, QB, NC State

Other Draft needs include: OLB, S, ILB


Yes on Joeckel then I'd trade up from our 2nd for Barrett Jones...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyDez wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
I was thinking, assuming we pick #4 and Geno is taken #1...

Round 1: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
Round 2: Mike Glennon, QB, NC State

Other Draft needs include: OLB, S, ILB


Yes on Joeckel then I'd trade up from our 2nd for Barrett Jones...


I dont agree with that because they would have already taken the top offensive lineman in the draft in Joeckel. Who would play QB?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AZPSquared wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
I was thinking, assuming we pick #4 and Geno is taken #1...

Round 1: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
Round 2: Mike Glennon, QB, NC State

Other Draft needs include: OLB, S, ILB


Yes on Joeckel then I'd trade up from our 2nd for Barrett Jones...


I dont agree with that because they would have already taken the top offensive lineman in the draft in Joeckel. Who would play QB?


It depends on Kolb being restructured or released. If he's cut and we don't end up with Vick or Palmer then we're taking a QB in the 1st IMO. If Kolb or another FA QB is here I'd go Joeckel + B-Jones...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we fix 2 OL spots, i can see that working for Kolb if he can play 14 games a year.

If not, I think we are cactus.

We are not signing Vick Dez, sorry to kill that dream, goes the way of my Vince Young dream, how did that play out for him.

Glennon in the 3rd maybe, anything before that no thanks.

Joekel, Jones then Glennon, that isn't a bad start.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't expect Vick to be here and it doesn't upset me at all. I'd rather draft a QB in the first. I just think #7 is a better option than the stiffs we have. I'd take Palmer over our 3 QB's as well. I'm not a big Glennon guy.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://washingtonexaminer.com/mel-kiper-mike-glennon-could-be-top-qb-in-draft/article/2515692#.UMk9Pc1fr_U

I hope we can get him in the 2nd. The statistics are not great but the tape tells a different story.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AZPS, mate do you get a cut of Glennon's salary if you get him drafted high?

your bromance is worse than Dez's for Vick and mine for Rhodes or any other nole.

1st QB taken by default, last man standing.
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The Cardinals taking anyone other than Luke Joeckel if he's available is mind blowing

Heck if Joeckel isn't available they should take his teammate in Matthews


Your Oline is dreadful and no QB could succeed behind it. Makes no sense to reach for an overrated QB prospect like Matt Barkely who has next USC bust written all over him
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We might play with only 4 OL next year, same as this year, with actually one less player on the field.

Love to get big Luke, but no point having him, if we cannot run or throw.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBIB wrote:
Your Oline is dreadful and no QB could succeed behind it. Makes no sense to reach for an overrated QB prospect like Matt Barkely who has next USC bust written all over him


Over a four game stretch in the middle of the season that is true, over the last four weeks this could not be further from the truth.

Since Nate Potter and Bobby Massie began the pair of starting tackles the Cardinals have allowed 10 on 159 pass dropbacks.

That sack percentage would sit right around the middle of the league.
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If there was a game you would expect right tackle Bobby Massie to revert to form, and his struggles from early in the year, it would be this one. Not only was he facing some talented defensive linemen, but with the rest of the team drowning itself in quicksand, the temptation to join them would seem an easy one to give in to but Massie had another strong game. His +2.9 grade came as the result of giving up just a single hit and hurry from 42 snaps pass blocking. It was by far the best grade of the offensive line and really makes a statement that he was serious about taking control of his NFL career and being a better player.


Per PFF.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, good on Massie.

My man love for him is coming back again.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyDez wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
I was thinking, assuming we pick #4 and Geno is taken #1...

Round 1: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
Round 2: Mike Glennon, QB, NC State

Other Draft needs include: OLB, S, ILB


Yes on Joeckel then I'd trade up from our 2nd for Barrett Jones...


I like either scenario honestly, Glennon/young QB in 2nd especially if Kolb returns. But I could live with 2 Olinemen as well
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a new set of coaches and front office people alike are hired, I expect Massie and Colledge to be the only two that are safe.

Potter will obviously be kept around but not promised a starting job. Depth.

Sendlein, Brown and Snyder all gone.
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