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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckyNumber11 wrote:
I think a 0% chance we take Star. We're good with what we got


Could be bait to get someone to trade with us.
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If we took Star, maybe more 4 - 3 fronts?

CC - DW - SL - DD, with Carter and Shaunessey (spelling) as backups?

That is one massive front, hard to argue with that

He would be BPA if he was there at #7

Hard to argue with someone who could be Warren Sapp

Thinking outside the box, or merely a smokescreen
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
If we took Star, maybe more 4 - 3 fronts?

CC - DW - SL - DD, with Carter and Shaunessey (spelling) as backups?

That is one massive front, hard to argue with that

He would be BPA if he was there at #7

Hard to argue with someone who could be Warren Sapp

Thinking outside the box, or merely a smokescreen


Where does the pass rush come from?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iRobot wrote:
LuckyNumber11 wrote:
I think a 0% chance we take Star. We're good with what we got


Could be bait to get someone to trade with us.


Not trying to stir up anything. I'm just telling you what I heard at the Utah pro day. From what it sounded like to me if Star was available at 7 then the Cards would be taking him.... That said, it was a scout, not the GM or HC.

I also told the Browns forum and the Steelers forum about their scouts interactions with Joe Kruger.

nobody is listening to "bait" from a random dude in a forum with a media pass.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BA quote and he said he didnt worry about WR and DL

“Right now, other than receiver, defensive line is another area I don’t worry about,” he said.

http://www.azcentral.com/insiders/kentsomers/2013/03/21/arizona-cardinals-defensive-line-appears-to-be-a-strength/
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be OL/OLB guaranteed. With Jones tanking his pro-day I think only Dion is worthy (Mingo too small). I think it goes...

1. KC - Joeckel
2. JAC - Smith
3. Oakland - Floyd/Lotulelei
4. Philly - Milliner
5. Detroit - Fisher
6. Cleveland - Jordan
7. Cards - Warmack
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I think Lane Johnson might be in play, He might be considered the 3rd best OT but he has huge upside and would still be good value at #7
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Lane Johnson might be in play, He might be considered the 3rd best OT but he has huge upside and would still be good value at #7


Is there a site that has prospect's accurate DOB? Wiki says he's 24, kinda limits the upside... Warmack will be a 21 year old rookie.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AZPSquared wrote:
I think Lane Johnson might be in play, He might be considered the 3rd best OT but he has huge upside and would still be good value at #7


I whole heart idly disagree. I think he's just going to be another Levi scenario. I don't want another Levi. I want a top notch all around tackle if I take one in the first
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckyNumber11 wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
I think Lane Johnson might be in play, He might be considered the 3rd best OT but he has huge upside and would still be good value at #7


I whole heart idly disagree. I think he's just going to be another Levi scenario. I don't want another Levi. I want a top notch all around tackle if I take one in the first


Ditto, plus Arians stated going BPA, not reaching. Johnson would be reaching as far as #7 goes.
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How is Lane Johnson another Levi Brown. Lane Johnson is known for his exceptional athletic ability for an OT. Levi Brown is the opposite. Johnson is also good value at #7. Look at most big boards and he is ranked top 10. Johnson has even more upside than Joeckel because of his athleticism.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyDez wrote:
It will be OL/OLB guaranteed. With Jones tanking his pro-day I think only Dion is worthy (Mingo too small). I think it goes...


Wait...

6-4 241 is "Too small", but 6-6 248 is not?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AZPSquared wrote:
How is Lane Johnson another Levi Brown. Lane Johnson is known for his exceptional athletic ability for an OT. Levi Brown is the opposite. Johnson is also good value at #7. Look at most big boards and he is ranked top 10. Johnson has even more upside than Joeckel because of his athleticism.


Saw two sites where he was in the top ten and all had Warmack ranked higher and one had Cooper ranked higher too.

As far as Levi, they went for the need passing up Adrian Peterson. Levi was highly ranked also and from what I remember he was a higher ranked run blocker than Joe Thomas, which of course always pissed me off as we never ran the ball.

Johnson might have a high ceiling and might have trouble adjusting to the NFL do to lack of experience. Play OT for 2 years.

But with all that said, you never know, Arians has refereed to Levi as "Elite" and mentioned him at LT and RT. Also adding Massie and Potter could move to Guard if needed. And our beloved missed Stchamp98 said he heard the Cards liked OLmen more than Joeckel and Warmack, could be Fisher, Cooper, or Johnson and could be Warford or someone like that in the 2nd.

Won't know til draft time but I am not a fan of taking Johnson over Warmack or one of the pass rushers at #7

EDIT: Just double check Champs twitter and he was saying Cards like Cooper, I suggested something to him, if you look at the conversation that is me.
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Cooper is a bit older and also best suited for ZBS
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't saying that he is like Levi. I was saying he will end like Levi. A disappointment and IMO, boarder line bust
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