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DJ_Fka
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Te'O runs a 4.80 40
Welcome to the 3rd round Manti. |
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apollo14000
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I'm actually really psyched about the depth of this year's ILB class. It's not top heavy but we can pick up a solid starter in rounds 2-5 to replace Lenon.
Kevin Minter
Jon Bostic
Manti Te'o
Arthur Brown
Michael Mauti
AJ Klein
Kiko Alonso
Gerald Hodges
Nico Johnson
And then there's guys like Ogletree, Reddick, and Sio Moore who are also possible fits. |
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DirtyDez
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If Warmack is off the board i wouldn't complain if we took a freak like Jordan or Mingo. They'll struggle for a couple years and sniff the bust word but should be legit pass rushers 3-4 years into the league. Right now both guys would get run at and pushed backwards until they get into the late 250/early 260's range.
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apollo14000
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| DirtyDez wrote: | | If Warmack is off the board i wouldn't complain if we took a freak like Jordan or Mingo. They'll struggle for a couple years and sniff the bust word but should be legit pass rushers 3-4 years into the league. Right now both guys would get run at and pushed backwards until they get into the late 250/early 260's range. |
People are saying Ezekial Ansah can play 3-4 OLB as well. |
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DirtyDez
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| apollo14000 wrote: | | DirtyDez wrote: | | If Warmack is off the board i wouldn't complain if we took a freak like Jordan or Mingo. They'll struggle for a couple years and sniff the bust word but should be legit pass rushers 3-4 years into the league. Right now both guys would get run at and pushed backwards until they get into the late 250/early 260's range. |
People are saying Ezekial Ansah can play 3-4 OLB as well. |
If we take Ansah he should be used like Aldon Smith was his rookie season. He seems like an athlete first, football player second. Looked good in drills today but struggled in Mobile against actual players.
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apollo14000
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| DirtyDez wrote: | | apollo14000 wrote: | | DirtyDez wrote: | | If Warmack is off the board i wouldn't complain if we took a freak like Jordan or Mingo. They'll struggle for a couple years and sniff the bust word but should be legit pass rushers 3-4 years into the league. Right now both guys would get run at and pushed backwards until they get into the late 250/early 260's range. |
People are saying Ezekial Ansah can play 3-4 OLB as well. |
If we take Ansah he should be used like Aldon Smith was his rookie season. He seems like an athlete first, football player second. Looked good in drills today but struggled in Mobile against actual players. |
I agree. He needs to be rushing the passer 95% of the time. When he gets acclimated to the speed of the NFL, then you start giving him more difficult assignments. |
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iRobot
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Word is, with Brady's extension, that Mallet could be up on the block. 2 years behind Brady with great measurables and talent too.. I'm intrigued, price I hear could be a 3rd round pick.
Reading reports on him now out of college and anything I can find from the 2 years in the NFL.
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DirtyDez
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I'd rather trade #38 for Mallett then take any QB not named Geno at #38. BA would like his arm but he's a statue...
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apollo14000
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| iRobot wrote: | Word is, with Brady's extension, that Mallet could be up on the block. 2 years behind Brady with great measurables and talent too.. I'm intrigued, price I hear could be a 3rd round pick.
Reading reports on him now out of college and anything I can find from the 2 years in the NFL. |
Just watched his last game at Arkansas. It was the Sugar Bowl against Ohio State. He's a complete statue. Moreso than anyone in this draft class. He made some brilliant throws but shows the typical inconsistent footwork, inconsistent accuracy, and lack of mobility as your typical statue pocket passer coming out of college. His tape is very similar to the John Skeltons and the Ryan Lindleys of the world.
But that was two years ago. Maybe he's improved. But I doubt he's got any quicker and he probably still has that long delivery that, when paired with his mobility, is sure to lead to sacks and fumbles. |
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AZCardinalsFan
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| iRobot wrote: | Word is, with Brady's extension, that Mallet could be up on the block. 2 years behind Brady with great measurables and talent too.. I'm intrigued, price I hear could be a 3rd round pick.
Reading reports on him now out of college and anything I can find from the 2 years in the NFL. |
I was interested in him when he came out. He has all the tools to be great. He is what Arians wants in a QB. But Im not trading before the draft IMO. Geno could fall to 7 and I would take him in a heart beat there.
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iRobot
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| AZCardinalsFan wrote: | | iRobot wrote: | Word is, with Brady's extension, that Mallet could be up on the block. 2 years behind Brady with great measurables and talent too.. I'm intrigued, price I hear could be a 3rd round pick.
Reading reports on him now out of college and anything I can find from the 2 years in the NFL. |
I was interested in him when he came out. He has all the tools to be great. He is what Arians wants in a QB. But Im not trading before the draft IMO. Geno could fall to 7 and I would take him in a heart beat there. |
I was thinking during draft or after draft for future pick. There is a youtube vid of him vs Jaguars in preseason, made some nice throws. Interesting for sure.
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apollo14000
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| iRobot wrote: | | AZCardinalsFan wrote: | | iRobot wrote: | Word is, with Brady's extension, that Mallet could be up on the block. 2 years behind Brady with great measurables and talent too.. I'm intrigued, price I hear could be a 3rd round pick.
Reading reports on him now out of college and anything I can find from the 2 years in the NFL. |
I was interested in him when he came out. He has all the tools to be great. He is what Arians wants in a QB. But Im not trading before the draft IMO. Geno could fall to 7 and I would take him in a heart beat there. |
I was thinking during draft or after draft for future pick. There is a youtube vid of him vs Jaguars in preseason, made some nice throws. Interesting for sure. |
Eh Hoyer actually did better than him in that game. He was up against 2nd and 3rd string too. He could be a good one but I've learned my lesson from Kolb. Unless a QB has actually done something in this league for an extended period of time, he's not worth much to me. |
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DJ_Fka
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Hoyer and Kolb to duke it out in TC assuming we dont go QB in the draft.
I think we owe Kolb one more crack at it, he was going ok till the injury again.
Maybe the system needs to change for him.
Downfield is what Houston (college) ran from memory (dont quote me, i could be wrong), quick drops etc
He is so not a 5 sec pocket guy |
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DirtyDez
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1. Mingo is 7 months younger than Jordan, 1 year younger than Jones and Ansah. Does that mean anything?
2. Word is the Chiefs are trading for Alex Smith and drafting Joeckel #1... Jacksonville has publicly backed Gabbert, Oakland has Palmer grooming Pryor, Eagles have two starters, Lions have Stafford and the Brown are listening to offers for Weeden. If the Browns pass on Geno Smith he is ours for the taking. Do we pull the trigger?
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DJ_Fka
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| I think answer is yes to geno |
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