The "New" Ponder Thread

Thanatos · Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 476

Here's another stat comparison, this one is a bit closer than the Favre one. This QB struggled with some games where he had low yardage (1 sub 100 yd and 2 very close sub 100 games) and ugly performances.

Ponder: 16 games. 300-483 (62.1%) 2935 yds, 18 tds, 12 ints, 6.1 Yds/Att, 9.8 Yds/Comp

Other QB: 15 games. 264-413 (63.9%), 2843 yds, 18 tds, 12 ints, 6.9 Yds/Att, 10.8 Yds/Comp

Can anybody else guess who the other QB is? Is the future bright for the Vikings if Ponder can be like this other QB?

Bonus: The Other QB had a completion percentage of 62.1 the very next season.
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JDBrocks · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4805

That would be Tom Brady's 2001 Super Bowl season. I don't know that you can look at the trajectory of Brady's career and apply it to Ponder, but it does show that he can get better.

I don't remember the assessment of Brady's performance that season with those few bad games, but many have made the argument that the defense carried Brady to his first two Super Bowls.

Brady was also considered as having limited arm strength and a great check down passer.

Ponder is on a short leash either way, but if he can manage to carry the success that he's had late in the season into next year I think that he can be a solid top 15 to 12 QB.
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rpmwr19 · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 16906 Location: Stillwater, MN

Still over 10 years ago, not sure the numbers quite compare. The league is drastically different than it was even a decade ago.
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RPM's Vikings Roster Outlook

Klomp · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:51 am Post subject:

vike daddy · Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 66579

Musgrave: "He's making better decisions late in the down. He's doing a better job of using his legs when the first or second or third guy in his pass progression isn't there. He's hurt defenses by running. I know he did that in Houston. That really helps because it's tough for defenses to account for a quarterback not only as a passer, but also a runner."

"He's here early in the morning and late at night. There's a lot of work to be done with a quarterback. Your scope has to be tremendously broad without spreading yourself too thin. He puts the time in to make sure he's well prepped. At times, when I walk in, especially early in the week, I see him sitting in the cafeteria. He's got his book out or he's making notes. He has watched film and he's having a bowl of cereal and getting ready to go back down and get a workout. It's probably around 7 or 8. We have coaches' dinners at night. At times, he slips in there and grabs a bite to eat or a little to-go box to go home. It's definitely a full day's work. He's fully invested."

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22299878/vikings-talk-christian-ponder-work-growth-huddle-and
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perrynoid · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:36 am Post subject:

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ArcticNorseman · Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 1429 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska

How has the game changed in what's asked of the QB position?

True, The rules have changed regarding hitting defenseless players and the DB contact. WRs can make a QB look better than his talent would dictate. These types of factors have made it easier on QBs but that doesn't mean a QB of today must play to some 1.X factor better than Terry Bradshaw, or he isn't any good.

BUT someone please tell me how Air Coryell, the run n shoot or the Pistol or the Spread offense has helped a TEAM win the Super Bowl?

Sure, QBs in those systems put up great numbers, but they RARELY win conference championships. So, most SB winning QBs run an offense that employs balance and a variety options. Guess what, the Vikes run a proven successful offense.

Now, the guy leading the offense needs to make plays. More importantly, he has to lead the team. Can anyone show me where to find s stat rating leadership skill?

Drew Breed and Tom Brady would be #1 and #2 in that stat, imo.

Ponder has the intelligence and is continuing to develop his NFL QB aptitude. Of the young QBs in the league, Ponder's top-5 in developing his art while being limited by the tools at his disposal.

I can go all day comparing Ponders career stats with other QBs, but there's no relation to success-failure.

What I look at is the organization, its direction and the fit with the QB. That's why I'm liking what I see.

ktarinze · Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 927

1. I thought the ponder threads would be over by now

2. What is up with all the female avatars
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vikesnewcoach11 · Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:36 pm Post subject:

Anyone still think Webb is our answer? This is pathetic
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