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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Geno Smith vs Ryan Nassib Reply with quote

I know that we have a prospect thread.

I know that we have a draft thread.

HOWEVER.

These are two of the top three targets for us at QB (going off personal opinion and general observation of the Jaguars fans here - also note this does not mean both are necessarily first round targets) and as we know, QB is very important and Henne has shown he cannot be trusted long-term and Gabbert's fate is still up in the air (though I'm sure many would argue he is done here).

The big thing though - the reason I have not included Tyler Wilson, or anyone else for that matter - is that this thread is primarily dedicated to the New Era Pinstripe Bowl.

Though normally just another bowl game... this year, it is West Virginia vs Syracuse. Geno Smith vs Ryan Nassib.

December 29th at 3:15 EST. In preparation, I would like to gather formal thoughts on how we, as a subforum, view these two prospects and I would like to have discussion on them here during the game.




I couldn't find gifs of Nassib, so here:

RYAN NASSIB IS ALL IN

Its A Sabotage wrote:
Draft Breakdown Video:
Ryan Nassib
Southern California
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhgDOOq3hDY
Louisville
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2lLS4r_77g
Rutgers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfM3SpGv1IM
Northwestern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKJiruGcgFw

Eugene Smith:
Texas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAOMUjoTOyI
Clemson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB5OW9i7KHs
Marshall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZo__7PRl8A
Maryland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1zqqutj6Uo
LSU - 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvrXu9Fsvpk
South Florida - 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vRf-4CbWVc
Oklahoma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZCPd5u6f3c
Baylor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF7F59WJrTU
Kansas State
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-oCe2E9Nuw
Texas Tech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsTqZTi30tw
Iowa State
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efnQFamDvU8


Geno Smith on the current Jaguars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fKz3ggUX5k

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was very impressed with Geno when I put in his film, but I haven't watched him since his slide.

I haven't watched much from Nassib. I'm going to catch up on Geno and watch Nassib's games now that the college semester is up.

I'm hoping one of the QB prospects ends up in our lap and ends up being an elite star.



And just a friendly reminder: Topics like these are not only okay, they're encouraged. If you have a specific player that you think we should target or want to discuss, or want to compare two important players, don't hesitate to make a thread about them with some great information to pass on to the rest of us. Not every player deserves a thread (We don't need threads on Punters except a Bryan Anger appreciation thread!), but anyone you think deserves more discussion than just general talk, go for it!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draft Breakdown Video:
Ryan Nassib
Southern California
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhgDOOq3hDY
Louisville
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2lLS4r_77g
Rutgers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfM3SpGv1IM
Northwestern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKJiruGcgFw

Eugene Smith:
Texas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAOMUjoTOyI
Clemson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB5OW9i7KHs
Marshall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZo__7PRl8A
Maryland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1zqqutj6Uo
LSU - 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvrXu9Fsvpk
South Florida - 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vRf-4CbWVc
Oklahoma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZCPd5u6f3c
Baylor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF7F59WJrTU
Kansas State
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-oCe2E9Nuw
Texas Tech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsTqZTi30tw
Iowa State
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efnQFamDvU8


Geno Smith on the current Jaguars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fKz3ggUX5k
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IAS, I edited in your post at the end.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Geno Smith
2. David Fales
3. Tyler Wilson

Those are the top 3 QBs in this draft, all worthy of the number one pick imo depending on who your guy is. I really think we go with one of them at 2 or whatever pick we have.

Sure you could get Glennon, Nassib, etc. or someone who falls, but that doesn't mean he is your guy. If you think any of these QBs can be your guy, take him with your first round pick. That's my philosophy.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all about value, in a straight up who do I like more it's Geno. But if we can trade back get an extra 2nd rounder and get Nassib in the middle 2nd - early 3rd. Then that is far and away the better option.

Frankly, this team is almost completely devoid of talent and an extra top 60 player is just too much too pass up for a QB who is very talented but not a slam dunk Luck-type prospect.

I think there's alot too like about Nassib His throwing motion , arm strength and accuracy in the short and intermediate game are pretty impressive. Although his long ball needs work he underthrows alot of his receivers on deep routes forcing them too come back 3-5 yards too the ball. I don't know why he does this but the velocity he puts on shorter throws leads me too believe it's not his arm strength, which means it can be coached.

Scheme is also an issue I'd much rather my new QB too be coming out of Syracuce, rather than that wonky thing in WV.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nassib has some Stafford in him where he will throw from his back foot and weird angles when it comes.to his deep ball...leads to his poor accuracy, etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:
Nassib has some Stafford in him where he will throw from his back foot and weird angles when it comes.to his deep ball...leads to his poor accuracy, etc.
It's strange its like he wants too make a U shape when he could throw them alot straighter.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't remember the thread, but someone said that he got in the habit of drifting his deep balls because his WRs used to be slow so that'd be the only way he could have a chance of getting it downfield to them. I don't know how accurate that explanation is, but I do believe he has the ability to make all the throws.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
Can't remember the thread, but someone said that he got in the habit of drifting his deep balls because his WRs used to be slow so that'd be the only way he could have a chance of getting it downfield to them. I don't know how accurate that explanation is, but I do believe he has the ability to make all the throws.
That was what the guy who's constantly pimping Nassib said. I can't remember his name but if you venture outside of the jag's forum you probably know who I'm talking about. I dont know if I buy that excuse though, smell's like a load of bs from a Syracuse fan. Kind of like the "All He Does Is WIN!!" Tebow fans.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadjag wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
Can't remember the thread, but someone said that he got in the habit of drifting his deep balls because his WRs used to be slow so that'd be the only way he could have a chance of getting it downfield to them. I don't know how accurate that explanation is, but I do believe he has the ability to make all the throws.
That was what the guy who's constantly pimping Nassib said. I can't remember his name but if you venture outside of the jag's forum you probably know who I'm talking about. I dont know if I buy that excuse though, smell's like a load of bs from a Syracuse fan. Kind of like the "All He Does Is WIN!!" Tebow fans.


Yeah that's why I'm not sure how valid the explanation is, but even if it's not, the same thing was said about Andrew Luck. Luck still needs to clean it up quite a bit and he was clearly a better prospect, but it shows that it's not an end-all.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love both. If we can't get Geno in the top 3 then I would want Ryan Nassib at the top of round 2.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kinda wish we could make Geno and Nassib switch teams for this game. Laughing It would be interesting to see Geno Smith in a more Pro Style offense without his lil Tavon Austin and the rest. Would also be interesting to see what kind of things Nassib could put together with that wide open system and all kinds of weapons, easy throws, etc.


But in terms of reality where we can't do that...

I think it will be really interesting to watch head to head, which guy is more able to rise to the occasion and really take their team on their back so to speak. The leadership aspect of it. All the various technical aspects aside, it's something i've never really been impressed with when it comes to Geno, where i think Nassib really has the edge. Watching them head to head in a big bowl game should be an interesting opportunity to compare that sort of thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not impressed by either prospect if the Jags drafts one of these guys we will be drafting a QB in another 3-4 years
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just sat here for 2 minutes watching those deep ball gifs over and over again.

pwny want.
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