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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:48 am    Post subject: The Lions have to do better vs division Reply with quote

Worst record in the division since 2002.

0-5 vs division this year, potential to go 0-6.

Even last year, we only went 3-3.

If this team wants to compete for the playoffs next year, they have to do better than this and hopefully Schwartz and co. don't get this overlooked.

I mean, heck, look at the Rams. First year under Fisher (Whom Schwartz learned under...) and they are undefeated against their division, even technically in the playoff hunt.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject: Re: The Lions have to do better vs division Reply with quote

GeneralTso wrote:
Worst record in the division since 2002.

0-5 vs division this year, potential to go 0-6.

Even last year, we only went 3-3.

If this team wants to compete for the playoffs next year, they have to do better than this and hopefully Schwartz and co. don't get this overlooked.

I mean, heck, look at the Rams. First year under Fisher (Whom Schwartz learned under...) and they are undefeated against their division, even technically in the playoff hunt.


The Lions team has to be built to win in the division first. Then worry about the rest of the league.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:39 am    Post subject: Re: The Lions have to do better vs division Reply with quote

diehardlionfan wrote:
GeneralTso wrote:
Worst record in the division since 2002.

0-5 vs division this year, potential to go 0-6.

Even last year, we only went 3-3.

If this team wants to compete for the playoffs next year, they have to do better than this and hopefully Schwartz and co. don't get this overlooked.

I mean, heck, look at the Rams. First year under Fisher (Whom Schwartz learned under...) and they are undefeated against their division, even technically in the playoff hunt.


The Lions team has to be built to win in the division first. Then worry about the rest of the league.


Yeah our divisions OL are terrible, but have some great offensive playermakers.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: The Lions have to do better vs division Reply with quote

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GeneralTso wrote:
Worst record in the division since 2002.

0-5 vs division this year, potential to go 0-6.

Even last year, we only went 3-3.

If this team wants to compete for the playoffs next year, they have to do better than this and hopefully Schwartz and co. don't get this overlooked.

I mean, heck, look at the Rams. First year under Fisher (Whom Schwartz learned under...) and they are undefeated against their division, even technically in the playoff hunt.


The Lions team has to be built to win in the division first. Then worry about the rest of the league.


One thing I will say, though, is that the division is not easy to play against. Passing team in GB, running team in Minnesota, Defense in Chicago. There is no true formula.

In the NFC West, you run the ball and play defense, it's pretty black and white.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: The Lions have to do better vs division Reply with quote

diehardlionfan wrote:
GeneralTso wrote:
Worst record in the division since 2002.

0-5 vs division this year, potential to go 0-6.

Even last year, we only went 3-3.

If this team wants to compete for the playoffs next year, they have to do better than this and hopefully Schwartz and co. don't get this overlooked.

I mean, heck, look at the Rams. First year under Fisher (Whom Schwartz learned under...) and they are undefeated against their division, even technically in the playoff hunt.


The Lions team has to be built to win in the division first. Then worry about the rest of the league.


Absolutely. My hope is that playing in this tough division and the toughest schedule all together this year can make us a better team moving forward.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: The Lions have to do better vs division Reply with quote

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diehardlionfan wrote:
GeneralTso wrote:
Worst record in the division since 2002.

0-5 vs division this year, potential to go 0-6.

Even last year, we only went 3-3.

If this team wants to compete for the playoffs next year, they have to do better than this and hopefully Schwartz and co. don't get this overlooked.

I mean, heck, look at the Rams. First year under Fisher (Whom Schwartz learned under...) and they are undefeated against their division, even technically in the playoff hunt.


The Lions team has to be built to win in the division first. Then worry about the rest of the league.


One thing I will say, though, is that the division is not easy to play against. Passing team in GB, running team in Minnesota, Defense in Chicago. There is no true formula.

In the NFC West, you run the ball and play defense, it's pretty black and white.


I think a lot of the problem comes down to coaching. There should be no reason why they can't come up with a better game plan against Peterson. I know pretty much every team struggles against him, but the Lions need to game plan better for it. The same goes for Chicago. The Lions have (or had) a dynamic offense and they should be able to put up points against the Bears and do enough on defense to stop them. But, after what we've seen this season it looks like they're a few players away from being where we want them to be.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: The Lions have to do better vs division Reply with quote

detroitroar wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
GeneralTso wrote:
Worst record in the division since 2002.

0-5 vs division this year, potential to go 0-6.

Even last year, we only went 3-3.

If this team wants to compete for the playoffs next year, they have to do better than this and hopefully Schwartz and co. don't get this overlooked.

I mean, heck, look at the Rams. First year under Fisher (Whom Schwartz learned under...) and they are undefeated against their division, even technically in the playoff hunt.


The Lions team has to be built to win in the division first. Then worry about the rest of the league.


Absolutely. My hope is that playing in this tough division and the toughest Ischedule all together this year can make us a better team moving forward.


I hope you're right.

I think, trying to find something positive from this season, the team is gaining valuable experience. What they choose to do with that experience will be demonstrated next year.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

0-6

Good job team
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralTso wrote:
0-6

Good job team
But, but, they were all so competitive....
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: The Lions have to do better vs division Reply with quote

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GeneralTso wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
GeneralTso wrote:
Worst record in the division since 2002.

0-5 vs division this year, potential to go 0-6.

Even last year, we only went 3-3.

If this team wants to compete for the playoffs next year, they have to do better than this and hopefully Schwartz and co. don't get this overlooked.

I mean, heck, look at the Rams. First year under Fisher (Whom Schwartz learned under...) and they are undefeated against their division, even technically in the playoff hunt.


The Lions team has to be built to win in the division first. Then worry about the rest of the league.


One thing I will say, though, is that the division is not easy to play against. Passing team in GB, running team in Minnesota, Defense in Chicago. There is no true formula.

In the NFC West, you run the ball and play defense, it's pretty black and white.


I think a lot of the problem comes down to coaching. There should be no reason why they can't come up with a better game plan against Peterson. I know pretty much every team struggles against him, but the Lions need to game plan better for it. The same goes for Chicago. The Lions have (or had) a dynamic offense and they should be able to put up points against the Bears and do enough on defense to stop them. But, after what we've seen this season it looks like they're a few players away from being where we want them to be.

studdogs will say it again, this team has no identity.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to do well in the NFC North you need to be able to do 3 things:

- Run the Ball
- Stop the Run
- Stop the Pass

Lions can do none of these things when it really matters.
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